Macca

Keep draining the Swamp We're overhauling the list and now is the right time to do it If we waited another year or 2 it would be a year or 2, too late We're going to have a whole bunch of new players added but we'll need 2 off-seasons to make all the necessary changes And there's a few in the FD who'll need to shape up, otherwise next year will be their last year (notably Lamb & Richardson)

800 posts since 7.00am this morning I think I might have taught myself how to speed read As for the mini exodus, will there be 1 or 2 more? Wouldn't surprise Rivers, JVR & Fritsch all might be 'Approached' Anyway, if the club is happy to burn $$$$'s in the cap, the trade off might be that we get picks (or players) coming back instead (for the partial rebuild) May could garner a late 2nd round pick if we're prepared to pay part of his salary (Est @ $800k?) McVee maybe an early 2nd rounder Not sure we'll get anything for Oliver, but if we're paying half his salary for 5 years then a 2nd round pick might be an appropriate trade. Maybe even a late 1st round pick Not too much to ask considering we might be up for $3.5Million, all-up. That's a lot of money to be given to a rival club, and that amount of money should come at some sort of price Petracca is the most valuable and if he ends up at the Gold Coast we could get a 1st & 2nd round pick ... it's a bit of an ask but we can't give him away for nothing, considering he's the one who is seeking greener pastures Spargo 2nd round pick? (compo) And with all the picks* (1 x 1st Round, 6 x 2nd Round & 2 x 3rd Round approximately), I'd like to see the club let Jason Taylor have a real go with the 2nd & 3rd round picks, and see if he can unearth some gems (instead of recruiting any more experienced NQR's) We could also package up some picks in order to obtain better placed picks (depending on whether we get hold of X amount of picks in the trade period) Not all the best draftees are in the top 10 or 20 picked Losing all these players forces the club into a rebuild of sorts ... and with Tassie coming into the draft in 2027, the time to rebuild is right now *It should be remembered that we've already committed the salaries of May, Petracca & Oliver into next years cap. And that amounts to about $3.5Million

He's got his money (guaranteed) so now it's more a matter of who he wants to play for It's quite probable that he can't see much future success at the MFC Happens in the NBA and other big sports on a constant basis

@Dee Zephyr @titan_uranus @Go the Biff @Clintosaurus @Gorgoroth @layzie @BDA @ElDiablo14 @Dr. Gonzo Leaderboard Tipping Comp 10 - Macca 9 - Gorgoroth, Clintosaurus 8 - BDA, Go the Biff, layzie 7 - Dee Zephyr, Dr. Gonzo, titan_uranus 6 - ElDiablo14 We play for double points this week (we also play for double points in weeks 9, 13, 17 & 18 Clint was the only person to pick up a point in week 4, but it could turn out to be a valuable point by seasons end The Pick' em against the spread odds sheet not up as yet, so tried a different listings (below) Vikes/Browns is the London game with Minnesota being the road team Big game Thursday night, SNF could be a close one with MNF the same San Francisco 49ers vs. Los Angeles Rams -4.5 Thursday, 8:15 p.m., Prime Video Money Line: 49ers (+190); Rams (-225) Total: 47.5; Opened: 46.5 FPI favorite: Rams by 2.6 with a 57.2% probability to win the game outright Minnesota Vikings -3.5 vs. Cleveland Browns Sunday, 9:30 a.m., NFL Net, NFL+ Money Line: Vikings (-185); Browns (+155) Total: 36.5; Opened: 37.5 FPI favorite: Vikings by 5.5 with a 63.73% probability to win the game outright Las Vegas Raiders vs. Indianapolis Colts -6.5 Sunday, 1 p.m., FOX Money Line: Raiders (+260); Colts (-320) Total: 47.5; Opened: 48.5 FPI favorite: Colts by 5.2 with a 63.8% probability to win the game outright Dallas Cowboys -2.5 vs. New York Jets Sunday, 1 p.m., FOX Money Line: Cowboys (-145); Jets (+125) Total: 45.5; Opened: 44.5 FPI favorite: Cowboys by 3.5 with a 59.16% probability to win the game outright Denver Broncos vs. Philadelphia Eagles -5.5 Sunday, 1 p.m., CBS Money Line: Broncos (+195); Eagles (-230) Total: 44.5; Opened: 44.5 FPI favorite: Eagles by 5.2 with a 64.32% probability to win the game outright Miami Dolphins -1.5 vs. Carolina Panthers Sunday, 1 p.m., FOX Money Line: Dolphins (-130); Panthers (+110) Total: 44.5; Opened: 44.5 FPI favorite: Panthers by 0.7 with a 51.83% probability to win the game outright Houston Texans vs. Baltimore Ravens Sunday, 1 p.m., CBS, CBS Money Line: Texans (NL); Ravens (NL) Total: NL; Opened: NL FPI favorite: Ravens by 6.7 with a 66.13% probability to win the game outright New York Giants vs. New Orleans Saints -1.5 Sunday, 1 p.m., CBS Line movement: Opened Giants -2.5 Money Line: Giants (+100); Saints (-120) Total: 41.5; Opened: 42.5 FPI favorite: Saints by 1.5 with a 53.33% probability to win the game outright Tennessee Titans vs. Arizona Cardinals -9.5 Sunday, 4:05 p.m., CBS Line movement: Opened Cardinals -7.5 Money Line: Titans (+380); Cardinals (-550) Total: 41.5; Opened: 42.5 FPI favorite: Cardinals by 9.8 with a 74.73% probability to win the game outright Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. Seattle Seahawks -3.5 Sunday, 4:05 p.m., CBS Money Line: Buccaneers (+155); Seahawks (-185) Total: 44.5; Opened: 44.5 FPI favorite: Seahawks by 1.1 with a 51.87% probability to win the game outright Washington Commanders vs. Los Angeles Chargers -2.5 Sunday, 4:25 p.m., FOX Money Line: Commanders (+125); Chargers (-145) Total: 47.5; Opened: 49.5 FPI favorite: Chargers by 3.4 with a 59.5% probability to win the game outright Detroit Lions -9.5 vs. Cincinnati Bengals Sunday, 4:25 p.m., FOX Money Line: Lions (-500); Bengals (+360) Total: 49.5; Opened: 48.5 FPI favorite: Lions by 10.4 with a 74.93% probability to win the game outright New England Patriots vs. Buffalo Bills -7.5 Sunday, 8:20 p.m., NBC Money Line: Patriots (+300); Bills (-400) Total: 49.5; Opened: 49.5 FPI favorite: Bills by 7.3 with a 68.8% probability to win the game outright Kansas City Chiefs -3.5 vs. Jacksonville Jaguars Monday, 8:15 p.m., ABC, ESPN Money Line: Chiefs (-195); Jaguars (+165) Total: 45.5; Opened: 45.5 FPI favorite: Chiefs by 5 with a 62.33% probability to win the game outright

Who knows with that sort of stuff, not my cup of tea What we now know for sure is that he's definitely on the move As for what we get in return, if we stand firm, it's going to cost a pretty penny for any would-be suiter However, I reckon @layzie will be closest to the pin on the matter ... i.e. we probably won't get in return what we think is a rightful trade At some stage the club needs this issue to go away. 2 off-seasons in a row, there can't be a 3rd

Gold Coast is the new (old) interest. Better placed picks in the draft ... and try www.archive.md

Yep, the clock & game awareness was poor by the Packers at the end ... got lucky All in all, happy to share the win as I thought it was a real tough task to win in Dallas. Might be a handy half win for both teams when we get to the end of the season The Cowboys probably have similar issues on defence (?) but when Prescott is on, you're always a chance. Top player

Listened to the match between Dallas & the Packers and both teams had their chances to win So a tie was a fitting result in my view. I was thinking that the Cowboys might win so I'll take the half win Sorts out the tie-break scenarios at least!! Prescott was excellent for Dallas as he kept marching his team down the field for the 6 pointers And more weaknesses exposed at Green Bay ... notably the defence and the passing game is iffy. Jordan Love was good but not great ... he is what he is

Overtime in Big D ! Packers elect to kick off? Both teams get at least one possession I believe

Pittsburgh vs Vikings at 11.30pm tonight (2.30pm local time) from Croke Park in Dublin (capacity 82,300) Apparently the expected crowd could be as much as 75,000

Commanders Chargers Eagles

Tips @Clintosaurus

Seattle well on top and the Arizona crowd have booed their team off at half-time! Seattle 14 Arizona 3

I put a note above the game sheet They got the lines the wrong way around (typo)

Yes, fair comment If it gets to that point, we might have to bite the bullet But from what we're hearing, if a suitable trade can't be arranged, he's prepared (happy?) to stay So the disruption may not be major Instead of free agency being a major factor, contracted players asking for trades has become the norm Business as usual (so to speak)

Public holiday Friday so get the chance to watch the Thursday night game And either Seattle or Arizona get the chance to go to a 3 & 1 record. Should be a good match (at Arizona) Need to keep winning in that division (NFC West) ... currently 9 & 3 overall *Colts @ Rams, *Jags @ 49ers

That's why I reckon he'll end up staying Unless the GC come to the party (or Hawthorn) GC has pick 6 and the Hawks pick 8 And more picks and/or players on top of that My preference would be to win on any sort of deal as I'd much prefer that he stays Without Petracca we could have a poor W/L record next year ... as it stands, we need to somehow strengthen the list as well as keeping Petracca You make some good points layz but we need to keep our head above water next season (W/L) Anything less than 10 wins could spell doom & gloom As it stands, even with Petracca & Oliver firing, we might only be a 12 win team. King will need at least a year to sort the list out (and the game plan)

We're down to 3 x A grade players as everyone else near that mark previously, has dropped down accordingly And you need top players and lots of them to contend So if Petracca goes, it's down to an aging Gawn and Kozzie Viney, Langdon, Salem, Lever, Fritsch, Oliver, May et al. are no longer top players. Decent and not poor by any means, but not great The only one of those 7 who can get back to being A grade quality is Clarrie, but that remains to be seen We've got some up and comers, but that will take time So we either get a great deal for Petracca, or he stays and continues to produce (by his own standards, he wasn't great this year, but once his confidence returns ........)

Could be that if no offers come close to satisfying our needs, May could knuckle down, have a big pre-season and get over any injury concerns And then come back ready to play. Perhaps forcing the selectors hand into picking him Trouble is, he's not getting any younger If judged on his recent past deeds, the above might be a tad unrealistic but it might be the only way. Or he stays and struggles through as Ben Brown did in his last year *I can't see the club paying another club $400k (plus) just to get rid of him How's that going to look for the new CEO & the Board? We've already had to fork out $1Million+ for Goodwin

The other clubs see the same player (May) that we do. Right now, it's hard to see him getting through another season (and playing well) We've ruled a line through him and all the other clubs have seen what we've done Still, what you've said is still an outside chance of happening, as clubs sometimes overpay

Well at least the speculation on Oliver looks like it's over Oliver committing to the club coupled with no realistic offer from any other club ends the talk Contracts are binding in these sorts of scenarios. If a realistic trade isn't forthcoming, contracts have to be honoured For that reason, I can see May suiting up again for the Demons. Which club is going to give a 34yo $800k for one season?

Upon reflection, Petracca had a much better season than many might have thought And I've a strong feeling that he can get back to his best. He definitely showed some signs throughout the season ... the missing factor is his confidence, but that can return So in my view, we need a lot back in a trade or he stays. Others will think differently if they believe he is past his best Thus, the different opinions on his form looking ahead Where do you stand on his future footy? Worst case scenario is we get not much in return and he stars elsewhere I'd make him stay unless we get a top offer 2 first rounders with 1 in the top 6 picks plus, the new club pays all his salary Or he stays and honours his contract *Frontloading a few players monies in next year's salary cap makes sense

We'll find out soon enough I've got my money on him staying unless we are offered a super deal And I'm not sure the club has factored in filling the huge hole in the cap next season if Trac does go elsewhere ($1.3Million or thereabouts) ... and that's leaving aside the the other $800k that May is owed (or not owed if he goes) The other factor is the new coach and any conversations that King might have had with Petracca (along the lines of required player) The speculation will continue but to me it's just that, speculation If we start seeing a decent offer on the table, then that's when things can get interesting A fire sale doesn't improve the list. In fact, the opposite would we true if that happened (fire sale)

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Petracca is a top player and contracted for the next 4 years (on big money) We'll be requiring a massive offer otherwise he has to do the pro thing and stay The club holds the upper hand and won't be accepting chump-change, as he's been a huge investment for us Hold firm and don't lose out on any deal (if forthcoming) If another club is willing to take up his contract, it stands to reason that they should then have to pay a heavy price to acquire him He's not a free agent, he is our property (so to speak)