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NothingILikeMore missed the start and then just couldn't get going ... here's a replay of the race Wadda. As an aside, I don't get why certain races are not graded as Group races when they obviously are (the same sort of thing happens with the Magic Millions & The Everest etc) This race (The Hong Kong Classic Cup) was for 4yo's only but carried prizemoney of $1.7Million AUD ... nice work if you can get it for the connections of the winner! They just motor at Sha Tin - 1:46.99 for the 1800m. If I get a chance I'll post up the replays of the European Group 1's throughout our winter (youtube normally has them up reasonably promptly)

Yes D77, the dividend (which was a substantial figure) is minus the bonus bet amount. One final catch ... The winnings from the bonus bets can't be withdrawn until he bets the total amount again! But he can now bet the 'winnings' any way he likes (Tri's, Multi's et al) Sounds complicated but he'll be smart enough to turn his initial winnings into quite a decent profit (He is, after all, another dyed-in-the-wool Demon supporter) Everyone else I know had a lousy weekend on the punt! But they'll all be back Australian Group & Listed Races

An acquaintance at work joined up at Ladbrokes last week and received a fair wad in bonus bets as a consequence. Plonked most of it on Redkirk Warrior and cleaned right up ... however most I know were on Redzel or included it 'one-out' and lost out. It will be interesting to see what odds both horses are at their next start (The Newmarket Hcp?) ... Redkirk Warrior won last year's Newmarket.

Regardless, it is a tough race to find a standout horse Wadda ... trifecta for me at this stage. The Orr Stakes form isn't a great guide either. I always like to give a horse a 2nd chance so will probably include 'Dollar for Dollar'. Lord Of The Sky & Brave Smash should feature whilst Tosen Stardom will probably be thereabouts. And then there is Humidor & also Mighty Boss to consider. Barrier draw Wednesday I believe (and final fields) Last week all the fixed odds and form for the major race meetings were up on the Wednesday evening (racenet.com)

In the early betting Hartnell & Black Heart Bart aren't listed for the Futurity so it could be presumed both aren't running. Tosen Stardom is now into 5.50 after being 11.00 yesterday. Needs a decent barrier this time though (It drew the wide barrier in the C F Orr Stakes) A horse to look out for in the Blue Diamond (if it starts) is the Hayes trained 'Nomothaj' at big odds - it won the Maribyrnong Trial Stakes back in November beating 'Sunlight' into 3rd. It did run poorly in MM 2yo Classic but it might feature. It's possibly going to be my 'Best Outsider'

Here are those 3 Group 1's from this time last year (Oakleigh Plate, Futurity Stakes & Blue Diamond Stakes) Link - The 2017 Oakleigh Plate

I could do with a Singapore Sling right now after that effort Wadda! What was the jockey thinking on NothingILikeMore? I had 4 of the first 5 but not the winner obviously. I've got cable so the race was on Sky Thoroughbred Central. Racing.com sometimes covers the races from HK but not tonight. Anyway, you win some you lose some and there's always next week - which sees 3 Group 1's at Caulfield ... Australian Group & Listed Races

I marked the short priced favourite on top as well as 'Morethanlucky' - either of those 2 to win although the 6 seems overs at those odds - fingers crossed

It's just a matter of working out how it can all work for us Wadda ... I've just about figured out how to go about it but each to their own I say. We have all got something to work with at least. As previously stated, if Cliff's Edge & Redzel both win I would have won in the mid 3 figures range. But there's a lot of if's & but's when punting. Win, lose or otherwise I'm going to try and post up the replays of the Group 1's. As much as we all want to win I'm always happy to acknowledge the winners even if I wasn't on them. Throughout the decades the Hayes clan have always had a habit of getting the big win with a good each-way shot (and they did it again with 'Redkirk Warrior') Anyway, I saved a bit for Sha Tin and there is a big feature race on later that I've had a small trifecta on. Sha Tin Race 9 The Hong Kong Classic Cup 1800m 4yo's only $1.7Million AUD (7.40pm)

After today I'm getting close to working out my strategy. At worst I'll need 2 of the 4 to win coupled up with another winner from elsewhere (in a few 3 pick multi's) I used Redzel and Addictive Nature today but both dipped out. Of course if Cliff's Edge hangs on then like you, I would have got the treble at 30-1 or thereabouts. Close, but no cigar. Bus as previously stated, we're not far away (and the treble did salute in weeks 1 & 2 of the best bet system)

Here's a replay of the Lightning Stakes (2018) ...

2 from 4 today D77 ... it was on the cards that we'd miss 2 out of the 4. Overall - 8 from 11 with two 2nds so we're not far off. If Cliff's Edge had have held on I was winning plenty. Same for Redzel. Like a few others I was uneasy re Redzel but it took a great run from Redkirk Warrior to beat it. As for the other feature race (The Apollo Stakes) I had Addictive Nature going in a small multi but it was very good win by Endless Drama - too good. The first 4 across the line are worth keeping an eye on.

I'll catch up with you blokes later ... out for the arvo. Let's hope we all get a decent collect

Well done on Santos D77 ... won well. Excellent prospects. I wasn't on it either ... got caught up. Punters lament at play again!

Yep ... good luck to all ! Best bets ... Morphettville Race 4 No.2 Stellar Collision Randwick Race 4 No.2 Deploy Flemington Race 7 No.1 Cliff's Edge Randwick Race 8 No.3 Alizee

So Poysed won in convincing fashion at the Valley at its last start and Craig Williams is on board ... the even money favourite 'Kings Will Dream' is trained by Weir so the horse (So Poysed) is more of an each-way chance.

For a bit of each way value I also like 'So Poysed' (no.5) in race 4 at Flemington

Alizee is certainly the class horse of the race D77... drawn well for the 1200m too. Down to an 11 horse field so getting a run shouldn't be an issue. The horse will possibly be ridden forward anyway from barrier 4 (or at least near the front of the race)

2 Best bets so far ... Flemington Race 7 No.1 Cliff's Edge $6.00 Morphettville Race 4 No.2 Stellar Collision $2.70 So it's over to @Demon77 & @binman for their expertise. Australian Group & Listed Races

Good choice and nice odds Wadda when considering its last run in the Manfred Stakes at Caulfield (Cliff's Edge won with an excellent time of 1:08.9 over the 1200m - carrying 58kgs)

I had a bit of trouble too Wadda ... that's why I ended up at Morphettville. I looked through 5 meetings (Flemington, Randwick, Ascot, Morphettville & Doomben) and could only find 3 horses that I was quite confident with. I'm taking the attitude that I have to feel really sure about a best bet ... I found another 5 or 6 that I classed as probably/maybe but again, if there's too much doubt I move to the next race. By the way, I got verified (immediately) at Sportsbet.com but only after I made a small deposit. I'll test the water this weekend but the odds already look better (and sportsbet has an odds booster facility)

And that quiet confidence was rewarded GV That 2 - 2 result is like a win because unless there is another 2 - 2 result, Juve will need to win at Wembley. Or find a way to score at least 2 goals. It should be a cracker of a 2nd leg. Meanwhile, Man City just keep marching on (albeit against inferior opposition)

I'm going super early with my best bet ... Morphettville Race 4 No 2 Stellar Collision (currently $2.70) 2 starts back finished a length & 3/4 (3rd) to Thronum in the Australia Stakes and this race is much easier. Before that won the listed Christmas Stakes at Caulfield. And the horse is trained by Darren Weir

Being a punter who prefers to outlay small amounts for a reasonable return I'm looking at using our Best bets in various ways (with the end result being a series of 3 pick multi's) Up until now I've usually been a trifecta/first4 punter but I'll give the best bet multi system a go for now and save my trifecta combo's for Sha Tin (there are 4 x 1400m races listed for next Sunday - ideal) As for Flemington, Randwick et al ... the fields, form and barriers should be up on Racenet.com by tomorrow night so I'll be getting an early start as usual!

I do like the idea of an each-way special as well D77 ... your other thoughts are very good too. I will be looking for some other top fancies to couple up with 1, 2 or 3 of our best bets so I suppose we shouldn't be thinking of any restrictions. I also like the idea of looking outside of Melboune & Sydney. For instance, any of the better Hayes horses running at Morphettville are always worth keeping an eye on. 2 of the Hayes horses won at short odds on Saturday (2.30 & 2.45) but those odds are not prohibitive in a multi. In fact 5 short priced favourites won in Adelaide but apart from Itz Invincible the other 4 started at 2.30, 2.40. 3.00 & 3.60. The last 4 winners at the Gold Coast on Saturday were short priced favourites as well (2.10, 2.60, 2.70 & 2.80) Back in the day those odds weren't much value to punters but not necessarily these days with multi-betting across the various race meetings. And by the way ... are any of the other horses going to be able to get anywhere near Redzel in the Lightning Stakes?