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A lot of our players have technical issues with their actions ... we should have had a biomechanics expert down at the club over a decade ago On top of that not many want to take on the big sticks (they'd rather hand it off) So a lack of confidence intensifies the issue. And that in turn sends a clear message to the opposition And many here have being saying as such (here) for a decade or more. Not that the club would take any notice of what those on a fans site would say but can't they have thought of it themselves? One of the most important aspects for a footballer is his ability to kick well under pressure (either perceived pressure or actual pressure) Hit targets or turn the ball over ... miss an easy shot for goal (choke) and you hand the ball back to the opposition (an 11 point turn around can often result) Do that against the good sides and you lose the game We will not beat the best sides until we sort out our poor kicking skills It's terrific that we defeated Freo but the club needs to look at the bigger picture and become a lot more professional with regards to our disposal issues

The footy has been terrific & easy on the eye. Managed to watch 2 full games and the 2nd half of 2 others The new rule (man on the mark) has changed the way the coaches are framing their game plans (far more attacking) ... the carrot has been tangled and teams are responding Of course it is early doors but we're already seeing a better balance ... decades ago most I knew and spoke to thought that 24 - 30 goals in a game was about the right number I initially thought that having the man on the mark standing still sounded quite silly but it seems to be working with regards to less of a defensive intent by the coaches Good Key forwards can have a bigger impact as a consequence (if there are lots more 'Faster' attacking forays) We need to get a fit & firing Ben Brown into our team asap

I often wonder why KPD's don't poll votes to any sort of degree in the Brownlow Hardeman was a great player who came 2nd in a Brownlow once but never finished higher than 3rd in the B&F Steven May might poll well though as he really does stand out in a dominant way. But no chance of winning if we go on history Backmen don't figure in the media awards either and it's possibly the same with B&F's (so it's not just the umpires who fail to recognise) Matt Scarlett was an astonishingly great player but did he ever figure in any awards? (of any description) Other greats such as Dench & Southby and others were often ignored with the votes The positive is that we haven't been able to have this sort of conversation very often with regards to one of our own players

They are just frustrated and who can blame them But hey, it's all just harmless banter anyway ... our words doesn't change things either Here's some positive stuff ... if T-Mac fires up again and we produce another marking forward next week (Gawn? LJ?) we'll beat the Saints and remain in the top 4 Make it happen MFC!!!

The Tassie reasoning is a cop out by the media & footy fans (re North) ... "They're heading to Tassie anyway" (bs) As previously stated, whenever there is a crowd numbers issue it's always our supporters who cop it (flavour of the selected moment?) I remember Vlad threatening us years ago re Queens Birthday ... meanwhile the club itself was in full tank mode and was basically a basket-case Blame the supporters? Utterly ridiculous Again, we are the clubs greatest asset

Many can wholeheartedly support the club and be highly critical of the club at the same time ... or have an attitude where the club can do no wrong. Bottom line is us supporters can change very little at the club and the club will do what the club will do regardless of what we say and do Negativity, positivity ... it means nothing. Talent and good coaching wins games and we are mere spectators & onlookers By the way, we might have had a positive W/L record in 2017 & 2020 but we choked it up big time in both years when finals were on the line And that's what people remember I have always urged people to buy a membership if they can afford it but I totally get it if they stay away because they are dissatisfied with the product on display. And you know what? Sporting clubs the world over deal with the above reasoning on a year to year basis. It's incumbent on the club to put on a good show otherwise they run the risk of losing their customers Ever been in business?

Why do hate so many of your fellow supporters? You constantly berate others with your hate based on your own over-the-top optimism You and your glass half empty reasoning (which lacks logic and intelligence) We lost 17 games in 2019 ... did you forget that year purposely? Endorphins overload has a downside ... and hope, faith & trust will get you absolutely nowhere in life Lose the hate 58er and allow others to display their feelings

And there would be a fair proportion of members who don't go to many games at all They support the club with their money ... I'd say about up to 20% - 25% would be in that bracket And that's right across the board at most of the clubs. I for one will be on crowd watch this season and will keep this thread going accordingly North pulled 13k to a home game under the roof ... where is the vitriol? (both here and elsewhere) Comments please even if it ruins your own argument ... I'm expecting crickets

Every sporting club in the world would have the same sort of proportional amount of 'so-called' fairweather supporters People like winners so they therefore don't like losers. So they stay away I know a stack of people who went 23 years without finals ('65-'87) and have then witnessed 1 finals appearance in 14 years ('07-'20) To say that are angry at the club would be understating things But they are still members and they still go to the games. But they don't get stuck into their fellow supporters. They understand why people stay away The club itself only has itself to blame ... they serve up mostly dross so what do they expect? We supporters & members are the reason the club still exists. They ought to be bloody grateful they have still got us And for all that feral support that the Tigers got between '83 & '16 it amounted to diddly-squat. And they stayed away when their team was a cellar dweller. They very nearly went under as a consequence

Excellent point but will the heat go onto North? Highly doubt it ... the footy public & media will pounce at every opportunity to get stuck into Melbourne supporters Demon fans who want to beat themselves up over this issue astonishes me. You're allowing yourselves to be bullied We are a small club with a small supporter base that has played 1 finals series in the last 14 years. Getting 21k is quite a high figure when considering how [censored] we've been for the last decade and a half. We also have a number of older members in the Covid-Kill zone Do they expect us to be masochists? North fans don't bother turning up and we get crickets And the club achieving 50k members 2 years ago was a minor miracle all things considered ... the club is damn lucky we're still here in any capacity Trying winning more games than we lose for a change and watch the crowds increase

Rosehill postponed May put their Autumn back a week or integrate the races from today. Pattern will be out of whack if they integrate though

Wasn't on it but Masked Crusader wins the William Reid in fine style ... a cut above a crack field. Burst through with high acceleration like a good horse That's a big breakthrough Group 1 win ... the TJ Smith has to be on the radar now

Sisstar breaks the track record in the 955m challenge! They could have a whole card of these sprints and it might gain a lot of interest (similar to the Flemington card of 1200m sprint races)

Drawn well and generally starts well I've got it in a few quinella combo's

I got on at the $8 but with all the rain about the horse (Jungle Edge) could easily start favourite ... it swims in the wet! The track up there could be a Heavy10 if the forecast rings true And Gator has marked my pick (Maritana) on top ... 3 starts at Mornington for 3 wins

Weekend Roughie Mornington (Saturday) Race 4 No.3 Maritana 26.00/4.50

Golden Slipper - Field, Form, Odds, Barriers

@dl4e @Sir Why You Little At a guess we might see season 4 released in Sept/Oct this year (well worth the wait in my view) Babylon Berlin filming for season 4 to begin in early 2021 Babylon Berlin Season 4 cast revealed, Henk Handloegten talks on Gereon-Charlotte pair

Vaguely remember being at the Yarra Glen races when I was an urchin ... parents were keen racegoers as were most of their friends Must get back their soon enough ... I catch up with mates once or twice a month on Sunday arvo's these days (footy, golf, pub etc) so the country racing needs to be on the agenda as well ! ?

A handy cheque of $70k for the connections at a little known destination in the Yarra Valley (The Yarra Valley Cup) There are group 2 & 3 races worldwide that carry that sort of prizemoney ($125k) Hang Man is a good honest performer just shy of Listed class but there are a stack of Handicaps & Country Cups that the horse can win A definite ADATR favourite

Ended up having a small wager on Hang Man and it duly saluted ... got the jump on Skyman entering the straight and that was enough

And so might Grandslam be a star as well ... commanding performance yesterday to win by that sort of margin (6.3 lengths) (before the rain had set in and affected the track) We might have another genuine WFA class middle distance runner on the scene with Grandslam Jamie Kah's first time on the horse so we'll see that combo again. Probably now Sydney bound for the G1 riches and with our carnival all but over, Kah, Oliver & co would be heading North as well you'd imagine There is some fantastic racing coming up in Sydney over the next 5 weekends 5 x G1's (including the Slipper) next Saturday and over the 5 weekends 17 x G1's and 22 other Group 2 & 3 races as well. The best of the best involved in 39 events Great time of the year with the footy starting next weekend as well Australian Group Racing And here are the replays from yesterday (I'll post up Grandslam's win in the Alister Clark Stakes when it's available)

Damian Lane said that the horse didn't handle the track well (the race was held in driving rain) They ran 01:39.82 which is more than 4 seconds above standard time for the mile at the Valley So the rain that had fallen had obviously effected the track but you would have expected the conditions to suit Sir Dragonet

ADATR blackbooker 'Hang Man' is running in the $125k Yarra Valley Cup (R6) tomorrow ... paying 4.50 for the win but it is up against the even money favourite in 'Skyman' But any of the top 6 in the betting can win so the exotics might be the go

Mugatoo a deserved winner of the All Star Mile ... held up for a fair while but once the gap appeared the horse had the best acceleration. Russian Camelot showed its class & Behemoth was dogged to the end Trifecta paid very well ($445) when considering the real class of the first 3 across the line Managed to get the exacta a couple of times but if anyone had followed up on Lunar Fox (as we should have?) then a dividend of $8508 for the F4 was to be had. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing!! n.b. I'll post up some replays later when they're available