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Crikey! Well I did take you at your word ... just imagine if I didn't! Good on ya P2J but I'd be lying if I wished you all the best with your bets. Not because of any other reason other than I couldn't deal with another 4 years of Trump. But that's just me Anyway, if you do win you've done very well. Close on an $18k return is good punting (if Trump salutes)

You make a lot of sensible points HT but I remember you stating 4 years ago that there was large percentage of Americans who are into celebrity status. So they think differently ... not the Trump fans here in Oz, they are just rusted on conservatives. But the tens of millions of Americans who adore Trump. And that's part of Trump's appeal. At the last election I was taken by surprise by the sheer amount of Americans who actually voted for Trump. But lesson learned Don't forget that Trump represents at least 43% of the electorate. That's a lot of people and I find that number to be far more alarming than the bloke that they are voting for. Those people are sending us a message whether we like the message or not. It's not even about policy but that's what the Democrats needed to concentrate on. They are playing into Trump's hand by playing against Trump. To him it's like a TV show and ratings. And like it or not, he's good at that stuff He plays to his audience like no other And that's why he might just win again Lord help us! ?

But what we now know HT is that a lot of people don't or won't admit to voting for Trump And that's a new thing in some ways but maybe that sort of factor has always been a thing And if the 'Shy' Trump voters are a substantial number then it stands to reason that the Trump voters understand their own brethren Does that make sense? So indeed, P2J's call may not be outrageous at all. In fact, I'm inclined to believe P2J if there is an understanding that Trump voters aren't necessarily transparent with their intentions A comparison might be in regards to racism and the hidden racism that exists. I mean, how many people actually admit to being racist as compared to how many racists actually exist? For goodness sakes, extreme racists put hoods over their heads to disguise themselves. I believe because of the above Trump can win but I truly hope he doesn't win. But I'm also not impressed at all by the Democrats or Biden Whatever the outcome the USA will still be a mess

Fair enough, good comeback and I will take you on your word Anyway, if the bookies lose out big time that'll sting. A bit like the following ...

Well, put your money where your mouth is A substantial wager to back up your claim is required if you want people to take you seriously Maybe $500 or $1000 and provide the proof

In the last election Trump claimed victory at 2.30am (ET) which is 6.30pm AEST (on a Wednesday of course) Could be earlier this time or it could be later if a State or 3 needs a recount. Which is what could happen. With such a large lead the pollsters would normally be advocating a Biden victory but they're not so confident this time The rust-belt States & Swing States weren't talked about nearly enough last time but this time it's all we've heard about. For good reason. On a side note, a number of the large Oz bookmaking firms stand to lose a small fortune if Trump gets up and wins. They are holding 10's of millions of dollars on the outcome. That's in Australia, believe it or not. Bets of $50,000 on Trump at about $2.80 or $3.00 have been quite commonplace. Copy & paste the following to google for the story ... 'Australian Bookies stand to lose staggering amount if Trump wins' There won't be much sympathy if the bookies lose big but a guaranteed mountain of laughs will probably occur (in true Aussie style)

Here's the Field & Form for the VRC Oaks But tomorrow the Kyneton Cup is to be held. First run in 1873! We love havin' a bet in Oz don't we! Looks a good betting race after looking at the Form - one for the exotics Field & Form Kyneton Cup ... Wednesday 4/11 @ 4.40pm As for the Oaks, Montefilia should at least get into the finish as the filly is a class act but the race is over 2500m and there have been many upset winners over the years Star of Eden, Vilanculos & Salto Angel offer up some real value if one is playing the exotics

I was on Exhilarates as well ... thought The Astrologist was going to go past it but the horse fought on very well. Great ride by McEvoy A good way to end the day ... in front by a good margin! Now for the Oaks!

Interesting couple of races to finish things off ... swoopers might prevail in both races

Ah well ... you'll probably do well with the Oaks on Thursday. I'll post up a bit of a preview later on. Real shame about Anthony Van Dyck and that's the other side of the sport we love.

Ended up getting the exacta which turned out alright. Twilight Payment led from start to finish and a worthy winner. Tiger Moth was brave in defeat Did you have it included in anything Gorg?

Tavidance was tardy out of the stalls which put paid to its chances But I got the exacta in the race ... got into the habit of putting our best bets into an exotic as another means of getting a collect If the each-way or value pick wins the exacta usually pays well (as long as one has the 2nd place getter included!) Now for the Cup. A number of eyes will be on Tiger Moth from the wide barrier but I reckon it will settle back and attempt to come all the way around the field (Cross Counter style)

But we've still got 2 good each-way chances running around for us Tavidance (Race 6) should get a run up near the speed (4th, 5th?) Homesman (Race 8) is a frontrunner and it has drawn an inside gate

For whatever reason we often race in tight bunches in Oz. But that's racing A good thing beaten was Sweet Deal the way it flew home although 'Joviality' was stuck back on the inside as well and never got clear air The connections are far more to blame ... instructing the jockeys to get cover throughout and then the horse doesn't get the run

All 3 choices are for tomorrow's meeting at Flemington All 3 in a place multi delivers about 11-1 (boosted odds) All 3 saluting the judge is showing a dividend of 240-1 (boosted odds) We're in with a chance but I've got all 3 selections going in win bets or exactas As previously stated, we only need 1 choice to win to show a profit As for the Cup, my roughie is 'Twilight Payment' but there are any number of good chances that can win or get into the finish Best of luck all!

After listening to carnival radio for a day or so I've now increased my choices in the cup to about 15 or 16! haha Quite seriously, too much information has confused the hell out of me. An exacta is on the cards now because I reckon anything can come 3rd or 4th Promises to be a great race especially now that the barrier draw is out And great minds think alike as I had 'Sweet Reply' on top in an exotic (along with a few others in a multiple exacta) The place multi is starting to take shape as well although we'll need 3 to get a half decent dividend. Over to JV7 for the clincher!

Most would have heard about the 'Shy' Trump voters but now there are apparently an abundance of shy Biden voters (especially amongst the elderly voters down in Florida) I'm predicting a cliff-hanger outcome with the State of Florida possibly playing a big part

Bucs, Titans, Rams

Best Bet Tuesday Flemington Race 8 No.1 Homesman 6.00/2.00

Since we made the shift to each-way or value we could have made a profit every week Just getting 1 winner out of 3 pays its way but the early place double has also saluted in the last 2 weeks. I missed last weekend but got 10-1 yesterday on the early place double Get all 3 and we can get anywhere between 15-1 & 30-1. And the picks can still win of course and if all 3 win it's happy days! I reckon it's way more interesting but I don't have any issue with picking a shortie as a best bet. For instance, if I can't find anything I'll probably pick Ingratiating (which is a really good chance of winning by the way)

The only thing that stands out so far is Ingratiating (No.1) in the first race but it's a short priced favourite. Works in a multi though I'm in for the best bet but I'll post up something later on. Probably find an each-way chance for some value I'm doing exacta's on the day so it's easy to include another runner if needs be

1st & 2nd should go to the class runners but after that it's a lottery. Exacta might be the go if that was to happen After having another good look, Master of Reality & Twilight Payment can get into the finish. Both have good overseas form.

Yes but I reckon there is a real class difference this year with the Cup, Gorg However, there's nearly always a surprise horse that gets in the finish but again, I can't get past the top 7 in the betting I could be wrong of course so I'll be having a couple of win bets (using bonus bets) in case my trifecta bombs out! Good day for the exotics on Tuesday though ... as it often is when it's hard to find the clear winners. It is often that sort of betting day much like Oaks day

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I really like Tiger Moth & Anthony Van Dyck but my main bet will be a Box6 Trifecta or a 4/7/7 Trifecta. Not all that concerned with the barriers in a general sense but Anthony Van Dyck has drawn very nicely and it's a class act. A good horse My outsider (and it's not really an outsider) is Russian Camelot @ 12-1 ... carrying 53.5kgs with Damien Oliver on board. The top 7 in the odds stand out to me ... then it's a decent gap to the rest (IMV)