Macca

Their system is their system and Trump won fair & square under that system last time. Most of the extra votes came out of California & New York And we all knew that going in. The key is winning the Swing States & Rust Belt States. And that's what Trump did last time. But my argument is a totally neutral one. I wouldn't vote for any of them The extreme Alt Right are as bad as the extreme loonie left. In fact, both have a lot in common. Telling us how to live our lives is the common theme. And neither side have much of a clue so why should anyone even listen to them? But people view their side of politics like they follow their favourite sporting team. They're all in, almost totally biased and therefore almost totally compromised. It's all about the winning, not governance One of them will win and not much will change. The minimum wage is way below poverty level, their gun laws are archaic and there's nearly 3 million of them in jail It's just a mess of a country

Best Bet (Saturday) Flemington Race 8 No.5 Madam Rouge Win/Place (Multi) $6.50/$2.15

A nil all draw would be an apt result with these 2 candidates But Trump will play to his audience and if Biden plays personalities he'll come off 2nd best The Democrats & Biden would be best suited to totally ignore Trump (as hard as that is) otherwise the game gets played on Trump's terms And the end result could see Trump win again. Much like Hillary, Biden is just the wrong candidate. The Dems should have presented a younger vibrant, savvy and intelligent nominee I don't have a dog in the fight as I can't abide any side of politics. They're nearly all corrupt & incompetent to my way of thinking But if it is a dog fight, Trump wins Biden leads in the polls but the gaps aren't nearly big enough to guarantee a Biden victory. In fact, the polls are merely a guide as reality tells us that the presidential election will be decided by the swing States & Rust Belt States As it was in the last election

@layzie @Gorgoroth @DemonDave @Dr. Gonzo @JV7 @Dappa Dan @titan_uranus @DeeSpencer @Clintosaurus @Dee Zephyr @Go the Biff At least a couple of games remain up in the air this week ... specifically the Steelers @ Titans game and the Vikings @ Houston game. I'll be putting in my tips sometime Sunday as a consequence and if I get a chance, I'll page everyone as I've done tonight. Cancelled games shouldn't count so you'll still have to get 3 actual road winners to gain points 1 point only on offer this week but after that every odd numbered week is worth 2 points. And week 16 is now worth 2 points so a total of 7 points are on offer in the last 3 weeks of the regular season Leaderboard Tipping Comp 3 - Gorgoroth, DeeSpencer, Go the Biff, Clintosaurus, titan_uranus 1 - Dee Zephyr, DemonDave, Macca 0 - Everyone else

I'll post up next week's games sometime tomorrow evening but Friday's game is Denver @ Jets ... not exactly prime-time material! However the week 5 Thursday night game sees Tampa @ Chicago and week 6 sees the Chiefs @ Bills 9 road winners in week 3 and very nearly a few more. With zero crowd involvement that trend of road winners might continue Leaderboard Tipping Comp 3 - Gorgoroth, DeeSpencer, Go the Biff, Clintosaurus, titan_uranus 1 - Dee Zephyr, DemonDave, Macca 0 - Those still in the gates

I thought they might have changed things where PI rulings could be challenged? And you know me Gorg, I rarely, if ever complain about bad calls but there was nothing in that incident at all I'd rather it go the other way where the players & plays decide things. And you might see that type of non PI a stack of times in every game. Can they over rule themselves? If so, they should do Whilst I'm here ... Packers had a great win over the Saints on the road. We look a different team. Saints losing opens things up for Tampa & Brady. 10 wins might win that division. Bears the danger though in the NFC North. Foles comes in and he might stay in. There's just something about that bloke in clutch moments. Keeps delivering

Mens Road Race on SBS (Viceland) tonight ... World Championships The winner gets to wear the rainbow jersey for the entire year. 8 Aussies competing (Porte & Matthews included) Pogacar, Roglic and a host of other big names are competing. Should be a great race.

49ers, Titans, Bucs

I had a bit on Prime Candidate at its last start but had an exacta on the race yesterday and didn't include it! Wouldn't have had Purple Sector anyway so it's all moot. Exacta paid $777 though. Racing at Kensington & Ballarat on Wednesday but I'll be looking @ J-Mac's & Bowman's value mounts on the Kenso track. Just a few win bets & a couple of one-off doubles. I generally get my money back if I get one winner. Pick up a double and it's a good day at the Wednesday races!

Here are the games again but note that Houston should be +5.5 not -5.5 ... an obvious typo Couple of youtube clips further down (Guess the lines & short preview)

And I got a decent collect with the trifecta on the back of Rothfire breaking down. I still would have got the trifecta if it won or got into the placings but it would have been a low dividend So I got lucky as I reckon we all do when we win a good amount Luck works both ways and we're never owed

Might be career over too. Such a shame if so. But horses have come back from such an injury (albeit intermittently) As soon as it got passed in the straight you could tell something had gone wrong with the horse My favourites are the sprinters so I already had a lot of time for the horse. Hoping for the best

And here are the 3 Group 1's held in Oz over the weekend. All 3 winners stood out but it should be noted that Rothfire fractured a sesamoid bone during the running of the Golden Rose and will be sidelined for at least a year. Sad news

Overseas Group 1 replays first up with the Oz Group 1 replays to follow Managed to snag a one-off UK double in the 2 x Group 1's as well as the 2 win bets saluting but no such luck in the USA! There are decent odds to be had with overseas Group 1's and the form is often easier to match up as well. The smaller fields can rule out the exotics but the races are often truly run as a consequence

I got a couple of half decent collects (late) to break even for the day Terrible start but that's par for the course ... I often wonder why I bet early A reasonable % of the trifecta in the Golden Rose helped a lot! Won well too ... I thought you'd be on it! Haven't watched a race yet but I'll watch some replays soon enough. But Russian Camelot, Ole Kirk, Instant Celebrity & Windstorm seemed to be the standout highlights of the day. And Crosshaven looks a likely type by the sounds of it

Mystic Journey back in town as well I was on Greysful Glamour who loomed large and then dropped right out Playing exacta's at Rosehill tomorrow but I reckon Arcadia Queen or Russian Camelot win the Underwood tomorrow. Marked them both on top (clearly) As for the Golden Rose, Rothfire should win but Ole Kirk will probably be flying home. North Pacific is a chance too. Out of those 3 you'd imagine Gorg

Pippie just way too good in the Moir ... a 1000/1100m specialist but she has won twice over 1200m Might be worth a go in the Everest and would almost certainly get to the lead in that race early. But they don't get a breather in the Everest and the last 100m - 150m would test her. Very quick horse though and they couldn't keep up with her tonight.

All the backmarkers couldn't make enough ground. 2 lengths covered 9 horses at the finish. Hard to get a read but the winner (Poland) might be worth following Mind you, the 5th horse was only 0.7 lengths from the winner. The Valley tonight still rated as a Good4 but it's hosing down out in the deep South East. Worried about Jungle Edge now because that horse is a swimmer!

'Barocha' sold to HK interests. Undisclosed amount but apparently an offer too good to refuse The story is on Racenet.com I suppose we can still follow the fortunes of the horse much like we have with Beauty Generation, Mr Stunning and a host of other Oz & NZ bred horses that ended up in HK Not quite the same but money talks

Yeah I'm looking at an exotic in your race with the 2 horses you mentioned on top. Maybe a F4 but probably a trifecta.

Best Bet (Friday) Moonee Valley Race 7 (Moir Stakes) No.11 Hanseatic Win/Multi (Place) $17.00/$4.00

Adding a bit more interest towards having more than 1 best bet this weekend is that we have 3 big race meetings on 2 different days this weekend ... n.b. The Underwood Stakes Day is on the Saturday this year (not the Sunday) Moir Stakes Night (Moonee Valley Friday) Golden Rose Day (Rosehill Saturday) Underwood Stakes Day (Caulfield Saturday) So we could all pick out something on the Friday and something else on the Saturday as JV7 has alluded to. There are 5 black-type races at Moonee Valley with some very good horses running around. I've already got 2 'Value' runners picked out on each day with one that I'm very confident about In other news Behemoth is in the Everest. The slot was secured today ... it's easy to see both Behemoth & Classique Legend flying home but will they be able to catch up with Nature Strip, Gytrash or the boom sprinter Rothfire 7 runners confirmed ... Nature Strip, Gytrash, Classique Legend, Rothfire, Tofane, Farnan & Behemoth The Moir Stakes is only run over 1000m but we might see 1 or 2 of the runners gain a slot in the Everest as there are still 5 vacancies available

@layzie @Gorgoroth @DemonDave @Dr. Gonzo @JV7 @Dappa Dan @titan_uranus @DeeSpencer @Clintosaurus @Dee Zephyr @Go the Biff Spoiler Alert: Don't read on if you don't yet know the result of today's game between the Saints & the Raiders. Leaderboard: Tipping Comp 2 - Gorgoroth, Go the Biff, Clintosaurus, DeeSpencer, titan_uranus 0 - The Usual Suspects By the way, any proof-reading of the results would be much appreciated Some excellent match-ups this week ... Rams @ Bills, Dallas @ Seattle, Packers @ Saints, Chiefs @ Ravens & the games involving the Pats & Tampa will be interesting all season with Cam Newton and Brady on show n.b. Houston should be +5.5 not -5.5 ... an obvious typo

It's a good race JV ... a few chances too. 'Toyetic' will probably get into the finish as well as your choice (The Brumby) I prefer it when Oliver is on a swooper but the map has 'Embolism' on the pace. I reckon it might be midfield though (with cover) I'm banking on Oliver and at 6.50, it's slightly overs. Very impressive win at it's only start at Geelong ... in good time too. Rather than a taking out a place bet or an exotic with any of the 3 aforementioned, I might take out a 2 or 3 pick 'Place' double/treble with Embolism & 1 or 2 others later in the day. Promises to be a good day's racing at HQ. Footnote: Got Oliver & J-Mac on a few value runners as well in 3 other races but I'll keep them under my hat!

The only issue is that we'd then have a possible 10 choices. And that involves 10 separate races. 12 if Rolling fog is here. And then there's Biff's 'Roughie' We may not have many races left to bet on personally! And we don't want to be betting against each other ... not publicly at least I'd leave it at 1 pick each but as the day progresses there's nothing wrong with throwing out a few spec choices. As we've been doing on recent Saturday's. By then most have put their bets on and we're in chew-fhe-fat mode. Best Bet or Best Value? Either/Or. Again, we don't want to over do it and if 6 or 7 different people are involved, one choice is enough in my view. Good suggestion though and it's only my opinion. I'll go with the majority view I reckon we could each have another tip on a Wednesday though. Many of the midweeks step up from here on in as is the case tomorrow with the Derby Trial & Oaks Trial at Flemington. Country Cup days etc. You got anything for us tomorrow JV?