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And I'm not your mate You take a walk Laddie Anyway, you'll probably get your wish with Goodwin but the make-up of the team will still be full of plodders

I tell no lies The reason it was not included in the review is quite obvious so you and others need to learn how to read between the lines He was very nearly sacked back then and why would he voluntarily put himself on the bench whilst leaving all the game-day moves to Yze You are the one who needs to stop telling lies about me Stick to gossip, that's what you are good at. How many gossip threads have you started here? 200? Wake up

Of course it wasn't mentioned Are you aware of how spin works in sport? Goodwin went close to being sacked in late Sept 2020 so they made changes to his role instead Wake wakey dizzle

Do your own research SFebes I'm working from my memory and I know I'm right

2 of our starting 4 out of the middle have been avoiding contact all season What sort of an example does that set for the rest of the team and the youngsters? What does happen is that sort of stuff can spread through the team in no time. And the opposition know full well too Teams come at us and we jump out of the way. Our senior players should have taken it upon themselves to secure the win yesterday But they went missing Stop blaming the coach for the players faults. They're well paid and can think and act for themselves

BS ... you are the one making stuff up. As per usual Forget 2025, that was not the year I was talking about. In 2021 Goodwin was relegated to the bench and more power was given to Yze upstairs as a consequence. The rest of it was spin so as to not embarrass Goodwin further Don't forget that he was close to being sacked back then? How is your memory? And I am right You can prove otherwise so like your little sidekick, stop wasting everyone's time

Our senior players lost the game. They thought the game was done They don't work hard enough. Big heads

Spin? He was put there after the 2020 FD review Do your own homework Haven't you chucked in your membership? Given up?

Fair enough I'm way more with the lack effort and putrid performances of our experienced players Play well regardless of the coaches message

The players lost the game yesterday Not the coach

Good points BDA And well balanced. Refreshing

Ah yes, but you did start with insults Live by the sword And anyone who lays all the blame at Goodwins feet is clueless And it was imbecilic obsession ... get it right

You can dish it out but can't cop it back

Go back a page and you'll see the relevance A conversation I had with @Lucifers Hero about what powers Goodwin has within the FD

@KozzyCan I noticed that you continually slag off at any number of players on OTHER threads but not on this thread Why is that? Don't want to spoil your own blinkered narrative As for the insults... you started that stuff Still arguing with yourself in the shower?

It's not BS He was put on the bench for the 2021 season ... I never referenced this season Learn how to read posts properly and stop wasting everyone's time

He was told to be on the bench after the 2020 season. And certain responsibilities were given to Yze as a consequence You might want to keep up with things And lose your imbecilic obsession with Goodwin

I tend to agree but wasn't he relegated to the bench after the FD review in 2020? Oddly enough, we won the flag the next year? Go figure But I said it a few months ago on this very thread ... the players rule the roost and we gave them even more leeway in the off-season Bad move as you can't have the cart before the horse Results aside, Goodwin is doing his best Are the players giving their all? Or kicking back waiting for someone else to do the hard yards The danger is that our young players are getting caught up in it all. Watching the senior players not give a yelp How about we thank certain players for the flag and then send them on their way?

If players want to leave they can F.O Get what we can from them in trades We're in for a truckload of losses anyway so we may as well bite the bullet and clear out the deadwood

Let's not forget that Goodwin was relegated to the bench a few years ago and with it, a number of responsibilities were taken away from him Anyway, at least Goodwin is trying his best Can't say the same for the Mercenaries & freeloaders sucking money out of the club (certain players)

Maybe but overhauling the list would involve the FD, not just Goodwin Do you believe that the players have checked out? At least a number of players?

The players checked out early last year, Gorg. Playing for the $$$$'s only All under the watch of Goodwin it must be said, but we have got a real issue with many on the list Need to overhaul the list

The players are frontrunners and we choke on a regular basis. We either can't kick for goal or crumble as soon as any pressure is applied We need to make some tough decisions and change the list over the next 2 off-seasons Effectively, we need to start again as this group of players is incapable of even playing finals Most of all, there's no hunger in their eyes and we have no killer instinct No offence to Chandler but he really shouldn't be a candidate for a top 3 to 5 position in the B & F It's more of an indictment on how far many of our former good players have fallen

Our main issue are our experienced players (namely the premiership players) So it's 70% player personnel issue & 30% coaching These same premiership players are slow, lazy, no hunger, weak at the contest, no edge, low skilled, set in their ways, frontrunners, no fight back qualities, well paid and lack leadership qualities And it's been that way for at least since the 2023 finals As for the coaching, we could change things up but we'd still be left with an group of players who lack self-motivation Need to cut a swathe through the list

The Premiership players are the main issue Gonzo Apart from Gawn, none of them have been anywhere near their best since 2023 Slow, old, unmotivated, lazy, no hunger, weak at the contest, no edge, low skills, set in their ways, etc etc In fact, since Gus was king hit out of the sport we've often looked quite timid Frontrunners with poor fight back qualities. All getting paid well too. Amongst all that, a real lack of leadership qualities We need a clean-out of sorts as previously stated on the rebuild thread back in March By and large, I agree with your post