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I honestly chucked the caps in there to see what it looked like and for a bit of a laugh ... NEVER AGAIN (oops) If we're thinking of trading Clarrie or Trac then we need them to play well. They won't be dropped They are not playing that badly it's just nowhere near elite My inner wish is that they both come good (for us) And yeah, bring on the NFL! There's a pre-season game on Friday 10am

Would be more like an offload/salary dump with Oliver As it stands, I highly doubt that any club would want to pay his monstrous salary anyway (rumoured to hit in excess of $1.5Million around 2028/2029) Could also be that we're stuck with him Petracca similar but he maybe has more upside

Oh don't worry I will. I'm like a dog with a bone on this one We previously had another sack Goodwin thread that went for about 300 pages ... 2019, 2020 & 2021 He was often hated back then so when he ended up on the bench with Yze upstairs, there were numerous comments about the why's & wherefores As I said, watch this space, good Sir Or keep an eye out for the other sack Goodwin thread

At the time, others here were saying similar Watch this space as I go searching

No, not at all But your good self? Wow!

I'll take that as a concession Have a nice day

Not accidental, a deliberate ploy

Who has taken that view on this thread? As usual, you keep making stuff up to suit your own blinkered view

@Bowserpower These were my original words And it is an opinion Do not tell lies about me again. Or twist my words And another apology needed

Smith & Guerra would have to be involved with the coaching decision you'd imagine And that could be in late September The trade period starts Oct 6th

And much might depend on who the coach is. New coach might want to retain certain players where as Goodwin may think differently You'd reckon if we did change the coaching it would be before the trade period

I reckon we'll try to attain at least one first round draft picks (via trades) The tricky part is putting some sort of value on players who are on big contracts. Could end up more of a salary dump as those who are on big money aren't playing to the level required ... and there's only 4 games remaining The coach related bit is which players are the keepers and which ones could be let go

Regardless of the coaching I reckon we could see a fair bit of player movement in the post season Contracts aside, players these days are often requesting trades. And the club may well facilitate those requests if the trade value is worthwhile Let's face it, the club is in a bit of a mess right now and some players might be looking for greener pastures. And the FD might also want to offload certain individuals anyway I'd be surprised if we aren't a big part of the trading period. Especially if we want to hold a decent hand in the draft

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You know what? I reckon it was a fact but I can't prove it. So I suppose it's just an opinion Anyway, where's my apology?

JVR doesn't lead or present Flies from behind and won't play in front Often attempts marks with one arm He's a better ruckman than a forward but is not much of a ruckman *Opinion*

I did, but my words have been twisted Me saying ... "Goodwin was relegated to the bench" is not a statement of fact, it's an opinion "Goodwin coached from the bench in 2021" is a fact Can that brain of yours figure out what I've just said or is it too hard?

Yes, and that is how it was perceived (by some) at the time Which is what I've been saying. Maybe people have just forgotten but at the same time (2020) there was another thread about Goodwin (Heavy heart et al) and many were welcoming the addition of Yze upstairs with Goodwin on the bench The supporters here wanted change and in the poll on Goodwin about 85% wanted him sacked around the Sept 20 mark. And that is the truth So I wasn't the only one seeing Goodwin on the bench as a demotion. I just can't be bothered trying to find the appropriate threads back then

I'm not your mate, bud My view that Goodwin was demoted was an opinion. Not a fact, but damn close to a fact Your football knowledge wouldn't fit on the back of a postage stamp

IT IS A FACT THAT GOODWIN COACHED FROM UPSTAIRS IN 2020 AND WAS ON THE BENCH COACHING IN 2021 AND IT IS ALSO A FACT THAT YZE WAS MAKING MOVES FROM UPSTAIRS AT THE SAME TIME IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU??? And that was a pea-hearted apology. You can do better than that

Well at the time I saw his move to the bench as a demotion but hey presto, we won the flag so it didn't seem to matter in the end But nonetheless, Yze took over a number of the duties from upstairs as those duties can only be conducted from upstairs By the way, if I could be bothered, there were many comments here back in 2020/2021 about the move involving Goodwin & Yze But everyone could see the change so I don't understand the stupid denial that it didn't happen So Dizzle accuses me of lying when in fact Dizzle is the one who is lying

Any player of any value except a number of youngsters including Langford, Lindsay & Windsor etc Obviously not Gawn, Kozzie and probably May but anyone else? If the right offer came along for most of the others, the club should look at it And there's at least a dozen NQR's clogging up the list. Many are contracted but some clubs might want them There's a merry-go-round of fringe players that end up at other clubs and that won't change. We've got a number of candidates

I don't need to show a source as there isn't one. Not a visible one anyway In 2020 Goodwin coached from upstairs In 2021 Goodwin coached from the bench whilst the newly appointed Yze was calling the shots from upstairs This is a fact. Irrefutable So I see that as demotion or at least having certain powers taken away from the coach That's what I said here originally and I stand by what I said. Mine was an opinion of how I believed Goodwin's role had changed (and it did change) I never quoted any sources If you want to believe that Goodwin's role didn't change from 2020 to 2021 you'll be ignoring the truth So trot off and go and bother someone else By the way, you owe me an apology as I correctly forecast that we'd end up with 2 first round picks in the 2024 draft which included snagging Essendon's first round pick You went off your head and accused me of making stuff up. You got it wrong (as per usual) So show some character and apologise

The game changed and super-fast ball movement along with precision skills is now required We haven't got a list that can play that style Thus, we need to overhaul the list. It's happened quickly too in the space of a few years So whilst we stuck to what we knew for too long, the game has passed us by I don't watch a lot of footy these days but I've caught a few Bulldogs games. They can be lightning quick and Lord knows how we're going to be able to keep up with them Huge off-season coming up but we'll be playing catch-up regardless of who is involved with the FD

Well that's a completely different question and would require an essay in reply (I'm not going to bother as all that stuff has been covered ad nauseum) But as for yesterday, our senior players were the main culprits. They choked And at some stage the players just have to get it done as they can't be coached every minute of a game I'm surprised that you and most others haven't figured it out But there again, the pile on with Goodwin just never stops. Perhaps he should get out there and hold their hands? Poor diddums