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I'm reasonably sure that the whole contract is guaranteed And the Soft Cap tax applies for every dollar over the threshold (up to $750k) But I've also heard that the soft cap rises by $750k next year so the payout may not be that excessive And I'm not calling for Goodwin's head but it's just not working out. Sometimes one has to be a pragmatist

You'd love to be a fly on the wall listening in to the list management meetings and such like Think it was @old55 that has made mention that list decisions are made as early as the first week in June. Might even be earlier now with the salary cap rising the way it is What's also noticeable is that clubs aren't concerned about contracting the lesser-lights for 2 or 3 years. I suppose plenty get traded now even if under contract And there isn't an abundance of AFL standard footballers available anyway

Trouble is that what's done is done and we can't bring it back I'm now coming to terms with Goodwin probably being moved on* sooner or later so maybe a new voice can spark the players into action. The whole FD needs a skake-up anyway. As does the list But again, the payout for Goodwin would be $1Million+ along with the soft cap tax of $750k ... that's for a full year At a guess, I reckon he at least gets the first 6 or 8 games next year but the club might have different ideas But lose to the Eagles and all bets are off!

I honestly chucked the caps in there to see what it looked like and for a bit of a laugh ... NEVER AGAIN (oops) If we're thinking of trading Clarrie or Trac then we need them to play well. They won't be dropped They are not playing that badly it's just nowhere near elite My inner wish is that they both come good (for us) And yeah, bring on the NFL! There's a pre-season game on Friday 10am

Would be more like an offload/salary dump with Oliver As it stands, I highly doubt that any club would want to pay his monstrous salary anyway (rumoured to hit in excess of $1.5Million around 2028/2029) Could also be that we're stuck with him Petracca similar but he maybe has more upside

Oh don't worry I will. I'm like a dog with a bone on this one We previously had another sack Goodwin thread that went for about 300 pages ... 2019, 2020 & 2021 He was often hated back then so when he ended up on the bench with Yze upstairs, there were numerous comments about the why's & wherefores As I said, watch this space, good Sir Or keep an eye out for the other sack Goodwin thread

At the time, others here were saying similar Watch this space as I go searching

No, not at all But your good self? Wow!

I'll take that as a concession Have a nice day

Not accidental, a deliberate ploy

Who has taken that view on this thread? As usual, you keep making stuff up to suit your own blinkered view

@Bowserpower These were my original words And it is an opinion Do not tell lies about me again. Or twist my words And another apology needed

Smith & Guerra would have to be involved with the coaching decision you'd imagine And that could be in late September The trade period starts Oct 6th

And much might depend on who the coach is. New coach might want to retain certain players where as Goodwin may think differently You'd reckon if we did change the coaching it would be before the trade period

I reckon we'll try to attain at least one first round draft picks (via trades) The tricky part is putting some sort of value on players who are on big contracts. Could end up more of a salary dump as those who are on big money aren't playing to the level required ... and there's only 4 games remaining The coach related bit is which players are the keepers and which ones could be let go

Regardless of the coaching I reckon we could see a fair bit of player movement in the post season Contracts aside, players these days are often requesting trades. And the club may well facilitate those requests if the trade value is worthwhile Let's face it, the club is in a bit of a mess right now and some players might be looking for greener pastures. And the FD might also want to offload certain individuals anyway I'd be surprised if we aren't a big part of the trading period. Especially if we want to hold a decent hand in the draft

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You know what? I reckon it was a fact but I can't prove it. So I suppose it's just an opinion Anyway, where's my apology?

JVR doesn't lead or present Flies from behind and won't play in front Often attempts marks with one arm He's a better ruckman than a forward but is not much of a ruckman *Opinion*

I did, but my words have been twisted Me saying ... "Goodwin was relegated to the bench" is not a statement of fact, it's an opinion "Goodwin coached from the bench in 2021" is a fact Can that brain of yours figure out what I've just said or is it too hard?

Yes, and that is how it was perceived (by some) at the time Which is what I've been saying. Maybe people have just forgotten but at the same time (2020) there was another thread about Goodwin (Heavy heart et al) and many were welcoming the addition of Yze upstairs with Goodwin on the bench The supporters here wanted change and in the poll on Goodwin about 85% wanted him sacked around the Sept 20 mark. And that is the truth So I wasn't the only one seeing Goodwin on the bench as a demotion. I just can't be bothered trying to find the appropriate threads back then

I'm not your mate, bud My view that Goodwin was demoted was an opinion. Not a fact, but damn close to a fact Your football knowledge wouldn't fit on the back of a postage stamp

IT IS A FACT THAT GOODWIN COACHED FROM UPSTAIRS IN 2020 AND WAS ON THE BENCH COACHING IN 2021 AND IT IS ALSO A FACT THAT YZE WAS MAKING MOVES FROM UPSTAIRS AT THE SAME TIME IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU??? And that was a pea-hearted apology. You can do better than that

Well at the time I saw his move to the bench as a demotion but hey presto, we won the flag so it didn't seem to matter in the end But nonetheless, Yze took over a number of the duties from upstairs as those duties can only be conducted from upstairs By the way, if I could be bothered, there were many comments here back in 2020/2021 about the move involving Goodwin & Yze But everyone could see the change so I don't understand the stupid denial that it didn't happen So Dizzle accuses me of lying when in fact Dizzle is the one who is lying

Any player of any value except a number of youngsters including Langford, Lindsay & Windsor etc Obviously not Gawn, Kozzie and probably May but anyone else? If the right offer came along for most of the others, the club should look at it And there's at least a dozen NQR's clogging up the list. Many are contracted but some clubs might want them There's a merry-go-round of fringe players that end up at other clubs and that won't change. We've got a number of candidates