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So is this not confirmation to the Crows that he's not staying?

We've probably already done that with Kielty.

Panty sniffers.

ah, so you mean Salem. Agree.

Are you seriously putting Oscar into the Dawson category??

Freo are letting go of Zac Dawson if we can't Lever...

This type of player is surplus to our needs. No.

Carlton getting ripped off.

WGAS. We've got Oscar.

Everything is going badly for us at the moment. Our defence appeared to be in tatters yesterday. I don't think Jake Lever could've changed the course of yesterday's game too much.

We've also proven we can defend scores without Lever. Letting go of Hogan is completely illogical. I can't believe it's even being considered.

Sorry mate, I didn't pick up the sarcasm.

Let's just deal with facts for now rather than individual Utopian views. So let's say it'll be pick 10 and Tyson for Lever and pick 36. Tyson has his knockers about butchering the pill a bit but there's no doubt he's one of our best ball winners in the team. I think Dom has got immense improvement left in him and is a key player type to execute our game plan. Lever looks great and probably deserves our first rounder but not one of our top line mids as well - I wouldn't even give ANB as part of the deal. For all of the posters gushing over Lever there's a few that also recognise he plays in a defence that has an AA defender in Talia and another big bloke in Hartigan and a jet in Laird. I just think you're proposal is way overs mate.

That's quite frankly ridiculous.

Sheez, mate. If this doesn't come off you're going to come down hard.

From what I can glean from reading all of the AFL related articles on SEN's site, they're a bunch of rumour mongering clowns who will take to print what any ex-AFL club insider (Pelchen, Waldron for example) says as gospel. Chumps.

So you would think that they'd have some wriggle room in the cap. Why such the low-ball offer? $300K is a huge difference. Crows being shrewd and not placing all their eggs in one basket?

4 years according to Mick Warner.

Oliver Viney Petracca

I really enjoy watching this kid play. Goes about it with a tonne of spirit and is pretty bloody handy.

That was me.

The antics Buddy and Dusty could/would get up to.... the mind boggles.

Jake Lever is a poor mans Oscar McDonald.

Lever is no Dangerfield. If we were to hand over two first rounders I'd be wanting to see one of them turned into another very handy player from another club.

The admiration for Frost and Omac on the back of some good form is nice and completely warranted. All players have off days though so I hope when they spud it up next we offer them some leeway as they continue to develop. Somehow I can't see that will be the case.