Jaded No More

I think some of us are letting his past injuries cloud our judgment. Oh poor Sylvia, he's never done a full-pre season. Give me a break, Brad Miller hasn't done a full pre-season in 3 years (until this season), but that never stood in the way of him being a team player. Sylvia's skills are not the issue, and never have been. It's his attitude and selfishness that kills him as a footballer. When he clashed and broke Ferguson's ribs a few seasons ago, we forgave him because he was "young and enthusiastic". 3 seasons on and he's still doing the same stupid things he's done since day one. He has all the attributes to be a fantastic player, and that we settle on him being "a handy, strong bodied forward" just goes to show that we all know he'll never take the next step because his attitude won't let him. What a waste of talent (number 3 pick or not!).

Pros: Can find the ball, can use the ball well, has football smarts and understands the play, decent tackler Cons: Lacks pace, very small He doesn't have that touch of class about him, but neither do the likes of Sam Mitchell. If he can become a handy replacement for Junior and take some heat away from the likes of McLean (currently our only effective midfielder, even with a broken ankle), we would have done very well for our investment. If you rate Junior as a C-Grade midfielder, than I guess your assessment is right. C-Grade/Battler to me says "Godfrey", which IMO he is miles ahead of.

:D He's getting a little better, but he's no Jamar (our ruck stocks= depressing)

Dunn may have struggled, and he may even be selfish (he isn't IMO) but at least he is not a diving cheat who has a cry everytime someone lays a finger on him. You may suck idiots like McLaren in, but I doubt anyone at the tribunal will give you any awards for your acting. What a hero he is, coming out and attacking a young player learning the game

My comments were in relation to Dean Bailey employing a REAL youth-policy, not a half-arsed one. I appreciate all that Yze, Holland and White have done for our club and like I said they may even get a token farewell game in Round 22, but thank god Bailey doesn't revert back to our NQR senior players at the very first hurdle, because that would completely defeat the purpose of developing a team for the future. As for your comments regarding Bell, what a stupid thing to say. If Bell is not getting a game in the bottom team, he won't be getting a game anywhere else either.

What the hell is the point of playing players who will be gone in 5 weeks, when they have no trade value, and when we're not trying to win?? Maybe you can explain it to me and Dean Bailey I have no issues with dropping Newton or Bell, especially Newton, but I have an issue with replacing someone like Jamar with Jeff White. That to me really does go against everything we are trying to get out of this season. No, but from where I was sitting he layed a pretty crude bump on an opponent in the goal square. Does he have carry-over points?

Agreed. We were lazy, we lacked intensity, our lack of tackling was pathetic, our ability to win clearances was non-existant, we couldn't hit a target by hand or by foot, and we played incredibly dumb (sometimes selfish) football. The worst part of the day was that our 2 most senior players, and captains, were nowhere to be seen and had an absolute shocker. Add to that the creepy attack of the seagulls all over the ground, the freezing weather and the pathetic morons who get paid to umpire the game, and it was not a good day for football.

Newton might cop a suspension, if he doesn't, he can get dropped regardless. Sylvia is on very VERY thin ice. I guess a lot will depend on the fitness of Green and Petterd, as both deserve to play if available. Jamar will not and should not get dropped for Jeff White. White is done, and we are not in a winning position anyway (in fact, we're better off losing), so what is the point of playing him when we can develop a young ruckman instead? Bailey won't play White, Yze, Holland or Carroll until possibly Round 22, if at all, and thank god for that.

I give encouragement votes when I have nobody left to vote for. I think Jamar is working really hard and improving each week. He took some solid marks, layed a couple of nice tackles and he works as hard as anyone out there. He is still a very very ordinary footballer, but at least he tries. I am sometimes shocked at the lack of intensity from some of our players, but with Jamar it's never lacking and I can appriciate that. Jones was stiff to miss out, but he now has been playing long enough to be able to judge the required distance of a kick. The amount of crap disposals he had today was unacceptable, even if he is constantly under pressure. Valenti was under pressure and hit targets most of the day. Buckley is somewhat excused, but I'm slowly getting fed up with players who do not know their limitations and try to run before they can walk. Breaking 8 tackles in a row is NOT possible, understand that and we'll all be better off.

Football, to me, is meaningless without the MELBOURNE Football Club. As much as I love the game itself, if my club died than so would my passion for the game.

6- PJ 5- CJ 4- Valenti 3- Buckley (attempted run out of the goal square= disgrace) 2- Miller 1- Jamar

You better hope like hell West Coast win that one, because Freo are no longer a direct threat to our chances of getting the number 1 pick. If West Coast win we'll certainly finish last, even if we do beat them in Round 20.

:D Has nice pace and worked well without the ball I thought. Very tough day to debut given the style of game employeed by both sides, and our disgraceful skill level (especially in the midfield!!!).

Sylvia didn't do himself any favours either with his selfish attitude. Miller had a right to give him a talking to after he decided to miss the shot on goal instead of handballing to Miller who was open in the goal square. As for Newton, he kicks an awesome goal and nearly takes mark of the year, but spends the other 100 odd minutes doing nothing. Massive waste of talent thus far. \

Harsh, but fair.

I'm just happy we're getting some exposure with this commercial (assuming it goes to air), regardless of how silly it is. Any publicity is good publicity, or so they say.

I agree. I think someone like Martin has a unique combination of athleticism, height, strength and pace. IMO he could become a very special player for us, who is unique. People salivate over NikNat's leap and agility, well Martin has that (to a lesser degree obviously), but he also has the ability to read the play. Having only played a defensive role in football for a year (pretty sure he was used mainly in the ruck prior to 2008), and adapted so well so quickly, his potential for growth and development is incredible and very very exciting. Garland is another one who is incredibly fast, agile, and has the ability to play back or forward in key position roles, or on smaller opponents if required.

How is Martin still not getting a position in the starting 18? Not that it matters as he'll play anyway. Would love to see Maric debut, simply because it's an extra incentive to turn up despite a guaranteed loss, however can't justify dropping anyone from the bench to make room for him.

Words are cheap... but it's nice to be kept in the loop somewhat. All I've heard from MFC administrations is talk, talk, talk and yet we're still in deep [censored]. I think most members feel the same, we're sick of promises and plans, we just want to see our off-field situation improve. If Jimmy's plans involve bringing Michael Jackson to do membership drives, I don't care, just as long as we see positive results he can do whatever the hell he likes.

The first part of that I stole from Tony Jones (oh the shame!), but I really am all about motivational speeches :D

If our new board sacks Bailey and puts Connolly in his place they might as well bring back Lyon to FF and Ingo to FB, because that's how ridiculous and damaging that decision will be. As unhappy as I am about the innuendos of the formation of a mates club at board level, I don't think that Stynes or Connolly love their mates more than they love the club. At the end of the day egos have to be put aside to ensure that the best interests of the club are served, otherwise the whole exercise in gaining control of the club will be futile.

Agreed. It seems that everytime we try to move forward, we take two steps back. No matter which way you look at it, something wasn't done right. Either the initial appointment was wrong, or Stynes is not comfortable having anyone under him that is not a hand-picked mate. Either way, this doesn't look good for our club and is yet another reason for the AFL to get their dirty fingers into the mix. Put simply we cannot afford to make these sorts of stuff ups, and yet we continuously do. How many clubs have had two CEOS, two presidents and two coaches in the last year alone, are on the bottom of the ladder and hemorrhaging money simultaneously? Even the richest of clubs can't cope with so much turmoil, let alone a struggling club like ours.

God help this football club.

I'm claiming Martin as my new love child. Thanks in advance

And yet fellow journos love and respect Hutchy... <_< The point I was making with Sam Lane is that female football journalists are only accepted into the boys' club if they fade into the background. Many male journalists write controversial stories but none are attacked the way she is. So yes, she gets talked about because she is so well recognised and her stories provoke thought, but the attacks IMO come from the fact she's a woman stepping over the line in a men's world.