Little Richard

And may God have mercy on their souls.

You can definitely add Ablett to your list above as well. I think it's clear that landing a star doesn't guarantee success. Look at Geelong and Hawthorn, the two most successful sides in recent memory. They developed extremely strong lists through savvy drafting and trading, and developing their own gun players. Sydney too, before Buddy/Tippett. And now the Dogs have done the same. It's what we need to do (and are doing), and for that reason I don't think we'll be trading in anyone bigger than Hibberd, who will be a great recruit regardless.

It would have been great to get one of those guys in terms of leadership and that age gap, but I consider the Judd move a fail for Carlton. Dangerfield's dominance just shows how steeply Geelong fall away in the middle after him and Selwood. And Buddy has been a big factor in Sydney's performance, but with a midfield like theirs and the delivery that they produce, most forwards would be performing pretty well in that team.

Even with all of this back and forth, I truly think we're edging toward him signing with us very soon. Fingers crossed.

It sounds as though that sentiment was taken from Healy's reference to Hogan's management last week, which turned out to be third hand anyway.

The 5 year plans worked out for Stalin and chairman Mao.

Essentially it looks as though they're trying to speculate as to which club has made the offer. Hence the rumour that we may be into him.

I'm with you, but maybe he's seen as a potential target for that ruck/forward gap we have. He's the right size at least.

Rumour that we may be into Kaiden Brand of Hawthorn, 198cm defender with 11 games under his belt. http://www.zerohanger.com/rival-club-makes-offer-to-hawks-tall-7813/

Albert Thurgood or Tommy Ryan?

Smith would be a big upgrade. It does look like he is progressing really nicely and should play some senior footy next season if he continues on the same trajectory. No surprises with King and Newton, but I'd be shocked if we kept Michie after delisting M Jones.

Yes. I am an emotional rollercoaster right now.

Is Saty the only person able to give an opinion on scooters?

How about when the opinion of a poster matches that of a commentator/writer with three hundred games of AFL experience?

Sylvia would have been a gun with a full preseason under his belt.

SEN stating definitively that W H-E will be at Collingwood next season. Third round pick is apparently the compensation, which seems very cheap.

Just to clarify, their interpretation of the rumour is that he has already signed for 4 years?

Harrowing memories, but I'd argue our current group has more runs on the board than that group ever did.

Suppose I didn't really think of Oliver in the same age range, but he should be included. Cheers!

Even your omnipotent self?

Now I probably won't even believe the MFC when they announce that he has re-signed.

Not sure Lobbe would want to come to us, tbh. He's more a pure ruckman than a ruck forward and would therefore struggle to get a game whilst Maxy is fit.

Really? Tyson has some of the quickest hands at the club, that's where he does his best work IMO.

If they said that in response to the speculation around him signing a 4 year extension, I'd be extremely despondent about his chances of staying.