PaulR

With the addition of Ben Brown, Luke has the best learning environment and mentors for his development over the next 2-3 years, in each of those areas where he could grow and play... Tall forward - Ben Brown Ruck - Max Gawn Ruck rover/midfielder - Christian Petracca/ Clayton Oliver Add the coaches and opportunity to play in a team just starting to bloom into a finals regular (i know NOTHING is gauranteed), and he's in the best place he could be.

I like the Geelong strategy, double down and roll the dice again, gives themselves a good chance when the alternative path won’t get them back in a GF for a decade... the fall will come (and be brutal), but they’re in the window now and are giving it their all.

I think the value gain we realised this trade period from recruiting then trading Preuss, the great deal we got for Hogan, and general trade craft recently, indicates if Luke decides to head West, then we’ll have a well developed strategy to ensure we improve our team in the process.

I think Tommy to GWS if Cameron deal done. Us to bundle TMac with 2nd round picks to land a teen pick from GWS in exchange...

I wonder if Freo feel the same, having paid pick 6 for Hogan..?

Could say we're also hoping for that result... ;)

So would we deal them in this year for their 2021 round 1 pick..?

Which other clubs with top 10 picks also have F/S or academy targets who'd go top 10?

Given Preuss is contracted, and leaves us exposed in the ruck if Max goes down, AND GWS are likely competitors for finals and flags, we should be driving a hard bargain, so 31 if they are lucky.

I suspect us trading Mitch for future 3rd is Part 1 of this deal... with Part 2 involving us snaring the Doggies pick 12 for equivalent (or just overs) in points, once the Ben Brown and Preuss deals are done...

Agree Whispering. And its reassuring which clubs are suffering from the ailments you've identified... Dons and Pies. I see it as a sign of a dysfunction in a club which (as we know too well at Melbourne) only results in years on the bottom. Bodes poorly for the Pies and Dons... ?

Could be worth a look, for a discounted price. Talent doesn't just dry up... application and appetite maybe, but like Harley, talent is talent, and you've got to take some risks sometimes to acquire it.

Maybe if the small forward fancied himself as a mid..? with other small forwards in play he can be assured of not being played forward when he wants to play in the middle, perhaps.

I'd suggest we offer Oscar and pick 43 for Adelaide's Pick 33

We’d be close to that over 60 years... ?

So Dr Evil, who's next on our shopping list..? Please tell. :)

The Dons would be deluding themselves if they’re thinking they’ll be in contention in the next 3 years. They should be aiming at the draft and building a team to conTend in 5 yrs...

Trump should be available soon...

This... no surprise that the two most experienced outfits navigated CoVID season and junior upstarts to make it to the Grand final. in a season where teams couldn’t train, a decade playing together helps.

Issue I'd have is you're data is heavily skewed by the players with Dixon, Hawkins, Lynch, Cameron providing their clubs with outstanding tall/small options and returns on them, in the past 2 years we're simply not had the tall (and small) talent. An area I think we're trying to address with Kozzie, and Jackson, with maybe Brown... going forward. Losing Hogan hurt.

I disagree that we've been unable to attract quality targeted players (May, Langdon being the most recent successful examples). To your point though, in recent times we've chosen to keep our cards close to our chests during this period, until the deals are done and we've snared our targets. Contrary to your view, I find this Grandstanding by Carlton and Saint is reminiscent of North trying to snare Dusty (and others), it smacks of desperation, and is ill-considered given those deal can often fall through...