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This is the thing, this whole theory of has having shots in low percentage areas is flawed. Because even from those "low chance" shots we should be getting them 40-50% of the time. The killers are the 25-40m kicks that are either in front of goal or on a slight angle, we suck at them and would miss them far more than we kick them. These are shots that for an AFL player should be bread and butter. Hell even Sparrow's snap is a great example, most players in other teams kick them, we don't. This issue with goal kicking has been slowly killing us for a while, now we are in the bottom 4 because of it.

Rozee, that was the one. It was in our forward 50 and evern the FF commentators mentioned he was given all day to get rid of it and failed to dispose of it correctly. It's those moments that infuriate when they are hot on Jack with his incident, there has to be better consideration on how they make their decisions.

I'm sorry but they are earning enough to be able to say they'll take it on themselves to improve this fundamental part of the game.

My first thought was ball it up. You see them paid for a dangerous tackle but he had literally no prior opportunity to get rid of it, but for whatever reason they were hot on it then. Funny they weren't hot on it earlier in the game when a port player, can't remember who, was given an eternity to dispose of it, didn't correctly dispose of it but somehow that was play on. As for the 50, I hate to say it but that was Viney's fault. Players know, and it felt so much the same as Kozzie's brain fart last week. We give up a lot of stupid 50m penalties.

I'm just tired and exhausted. Maybe I was always this way but the last few weeks seem to have really sapped some life out of me. Listening to the DeeBrief poddy right now Caden McDonald summed it up perfectly; it's death by a thousand self inflicted cuts. Watching us lose the same way over and over, watching the same issues rear their head every week without change, watching a game and knowing that we should be in front (sometimes significantly) but we trail by 15-20 points, and just knowing that a team doesn't need to beat us they just need to wait for us to beat ourselves. Now I was really dirty on Goody earlier in the year and was on the wagon of time for change. I have calmed my stance on that since the 5 wins from 6 run, but he needs to be asked the question point blank by the board; what's being done to fix these ongoing issues that have existed FOR YEARS! I have no confidence in any of out players to bin a set shot (though Fritta is winning me back slowly). We have lost massive games because of dumb football, ill-discipline, and failing at the basic fundamentals. Now we are at the bottom of the pile for the same reason. I'm done, as I said I'm tired and exhausted of this. FIX IT!!!!! There has to be a fining system set up within the club: behinds from within 30m on easy angles = $75 behinds from 30-40m no angle = $50 all other behinds or misses (out on the full included) = $25 All fines go directly to the Jim Stynes foundation and I would have it be retrospective from the start of the season. I'm sick of us paying our hard earned towards these guys getting paid extremely well, only for them to fail at a basic fundamental part of the game.

I think we need to make the switch, send him to defence and he only goes forward as a switch. But he should be a defender first always. Disco on the other hand I think should be forward first and defender second.

I'll gladly have Lloyd at the club in a goal kicking capacity, but I firmly believe that this is more between the ears than technique and ability. There are some that maybe don't have great technique, but then there are others (Melksham, Fritta) who have great technique but are missing relatively easy shots. When someone takes a mark inside 50 they all seem to look petrified, they're already picturing them missing it. There needs to be a hypnotist of sports phycologist who can get inside their minds and change this. It's the total opposite of clutch, they've failed before they've even kicked it.

This is hilarious, I started on the final page of the thread and saw this. Thought oh damn we lost! This is too funny, I mean I know they pay university students to write up these articles but this is next level embarrassing.

"Shut down" may have been the wrong wording but it was a run with role to try to curtail Neale's influence. The thing I liked about the way he did it was that it allowed Clarry to be more of his normal competitive self, there was more about beating Neale and hurting him the other way than just stopping him. The fact that Neale was way down on clearances was in no small part to Clarry in his role.

I mean if Kalani comes to the Dees next season, why doesn't Jeff come on board as a ruck/midfield coach?

If I'm being critical of Goody (and I think there are still valid criticisms) of Goody when we lose, I goota give him credit when we get good wins. Tactically I think Goody used all the pieces on his chess board correctly. From Clarry doing a run with role on Neale, to Melk blanketing Andrews. I also saw that our gameplan of using the hands to move with pace rather than bombing long coming out stronger. I also notice we are going back to using the get out chip kick when we can. I'm still not 100%if Goody will be our coach next season, but for now he is turning things around and that's all we can ask of him.

6: Max 5: Bowey 4: Melksham 3: Oliver 2: Petracca 1: Kozzie (would be higher if he took more of his chances)

These are the harder ones to determine. Viney for Sharp feels obvious, if Brown put in another good performance I'd like to see that rewards and have Spargo dropped. If Lever is fit he comes in, Disco goes forward, AJ (very unlucky) goes out. Fritta stays as the sub. He had an impact and that's what we need from the sub.

I honestly love this, and to be honest it shows us fighting a little dirty for once. They have been in the ears of Hogan when he was a teen, Jackson when he was a teen, and been teasing about Kozzie. About time they got a taste of their own medicine.

I'm in with your theory on that. We lacked the ability to kick goals, it's exactly what he does. We lose Petty, Melk, and Brayshaw. All three impact our ability to score (Gus going down meant Trac couldn't play forward).

Massive win, any we smashed them in the final quarter (should've won by 3-4 more goals). I love the fact we finished with a flurry, I just wish we were more clinical. Max is a god! Melksham continues to show his worth. Bowey for a little guys cut a huge figure. Clarry played a shut down role but hit back the other way. AJ competed hard. Chin continues to have key moments that he's taking now.

Here's a question; if the choice is between him and Koz who would you go with? It could well end up a straight swap Koz/Jacko, and I'm not gonna lie that would still be difficult to swallow. Koz has the ability to be one of if not the best player in the comp, he has all the tricks and to see him do it for another club would hurt. But then Jacko could fill the void of what we're lacking right now, a quality tall. Not to mention it could work better with Max coming to the end of his career, LJ can step into his enormous shoes. But this is actually insane that it could happen, who knows maybe a few years down the line Koz decides Perth isn't the place for him after all!

Beat me to it, we have tried Sparrow as a tagger and it's never worked. Clarry knows running patterns better than anybody and I think with him returning from his week off he wanted a role he could dive right into rather than "be the man".

Completely agree, this isn't a new issue, in fact it's been an issue with us probably since we lost Hogan. Even the premiership year it was more of a case of certain players their best form at just the right time (TMac, BBB, Fritta). Goody and Co need to be shouldering the blame for this side of our game being so poor for so long.

Clarry himself. I think there needs to be a breath taken with him taking a tagging role this week. For one we were missing Viney who has been our resident tagger recently (and it's helped him get into the game), secondly giving him a role gives him focus and we can always let him off the chains if we want to. It's not permanent.

Can't believe Viney is going to miss another week, honestly makes me feel like the WC kid that clocked him should be retrospectively getting a longer suspension.

That is damning, it shows around the ground we compete well and win enough contests but then our efficiency to make it result in a score is deplorable. I unfortunately was only able to watch bits of the final quarter, is this game as simple as when we had the ascendancy we failed to take our chances and when they were on top they did? Also, those maggots that missed the Kozzie blatant free-kick should be dropped. If ever there was an opportunity at a "captains challenge" that would've been it. Blind Freddy saw it FFS.

I think it's less fitness and more about attitude, but whatever it is it's a major concern. The Hawks would've seen the 3 quarter time score and thought (we've got them), meanwhile we were probably thinking, "oh no our 4th quarters aren't great".

Each to their own, the DeeBrief lads crack me up at times (and then other times they go right off the rails).

This is where the AFL failed in it's ability to argue to the case. There is no way in hell that if that's a Pies player below him (at training or in a match) that that thug compresses his body to make maximum impact to the vulnerable player. It was 5 minutes into a final, he wanted to make a physical impact, and he did. Now a player has retired because of his actions and the AFL tribunal gave it the tick of approval. It sickens me every time I think of it and I honestly struggle to watch ANY pies game now, but particularly whenever Maynard is on screen.