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Really? I feel like it's something he wouldn't do - that's to say allow emotion to influence selection. I mean he left jordon on the bench in the GF because we didn't have an injury when not a single person would have begrudged him giving him a run.

I had forgotten that. Icke is one of my all time favourite dees, which is pretty remarkable given he played most of his career at another club. A brilliant defender who almost always battled bigger forwards. Consistent and gave his all as a Dee every single week (compare and contrast with, say, Brent Crosswell).

Christ almighty we have had some bad luck this season!

Snap.

It's a bizarre argument anyway. I mean, so what if a noob on a footy forum thinks we should rest players etc and not try and make the 8. It's the very definition of a moot point. It's like me saying this morning I really don't think it should be super foggy this morning. Oh look it's still foggy! The club will do everything in its power to win the remaining games, regardless of our opinions.

Seriously, what on earth are you on about? Did you fail the conclusion protocols or something?

Not a debate? What is it then? All i flippin said is that the club will still be doing everything they can to make finals. You asked if I'd prefer we did, and I said yes. I didn't ask for an explanation as to why you think why my desire for us to make the 8 is flawed. And to be clear that last para was rhetorical so, please, no need for a rebuttal.

No I wasn't. Again, comprehension.

Ok. You asked if I'd prefer we made the finals and I said yes. I didn't realise it was a debate or that somehow i had to justify my position. As for a moot point - it's 100% a moot point whether you or I would prefer we made the finals in terms of the club's decision to keep pushing for finals or not

What is up with people's comprehension? You have managed to miscomprehend the same post twice. Repeat after me: Of course the odds are against. I wasn't arguing otherwise.

Number one for score involvements in the AFL by some margin when he got injured.

Yes, 100%.. I have followed dees for over 50 years. That's a lot of not making finals. Where there's hope and all that

Nor the crows- who are even less likely to make finals

Of course the odds are against. I wasn't arguing otherwise. I was responding to the comment that 2025 starts now. Zero chance that we'll be putting the cue in the rack and not be trying our guts out to make finals until it's mathematically impossible.

My take is we went into the game with focus on contest, pressure and territory. And it worked a treat in the first quarter. The game got away from us when the giants got the ball to the outside - which every team is trying to do to us to exploit our lack of run and sub optimal conditioning. But the giants started paddling a bit too in the last quarter and couldn't spread as well. And the game came back to being more on our terms - territory and pressure.

Bollocks. We are 2 points out of the 8.

I thought so too, and to an extent he us a victom of the high bar he had set himself, but he has def lost a bit of his confidence. Made some average decisions last night and his kicking, which is one wood when on, was off and has been for a while. All that said I think it is often under rated how difficult it is coming back from serious contact injuries. Bowey was terrific in the preseason games and prior to injuring his shoulder in that sickening collision when he put his body on the line. Like langers after coming back from his broken ribs, bowey hasn't looked the same player since coming back from his shoulder.

I really don't think they did. Their pressure was 200 in that last quarter and they scrapped right to the wire.

Spot on. And id add that Max was clearly injured (which I assume is why disco was sub) and we didn't have Salem and the kolt, who has provided some real energy in the last few weeks. And I'm not sure about others, but I don't think I'm alone in saying after their fourth quick goal at the start of the fourth I was worried we were going to get blown out. Others at the ground must have thought similarly as plenty left. So I was both surprised and proud how we fought back, particularly given how young we were.

Wasn't there some rumour that may and Lever were both carrying something and in doubt to play?

And tmac has never been great one on one. He's better out in space. To be fair t8 tmsc those inside 50s were super hard to defend, and that's on Max and the mids. And jessie is a gun., who is in rare form at the moment. Nailed his chances too. One of my favourite dees - id have him back in a heart beat. Imagine Hogan and JVR roaming around inside our front half

See ya.

No, he was a shadow of himself. Couldn't get off the ground, struggled to cover the ground and got our muscled. But tried his guts out Huge effort to play.

It was woeful. Clarry was behind Greene on the defensive side (inexplicably) and maxy hit into open space on the offensive side allowing Greene to run onto the ball unimpeded.