binman

That's just nonsense. I was merely rebutting inaccuracies. Like the narrative we are not good at moving the ball, when in fact the reality - quantitatively and qualitivity - is the opposite. As I have pointed out on any number of occasions, ever since i started posting on dl some 11 years ago in fact, the issue is our kicking skills - our last kick inside 50 and our woeful inaccuracy being the two most obvious manifestation of that issue. It an issue everyone acknowledges, and of course can clearly be seen - and equally obviously the issue manifests in the stats (eg traacs incrediblely low numbers of marks from his kicks inside 50 - back in may he had the worst ratio in the AFL and it hadn't improved since).

Total rubbish (except them having better skills, that much is true). One thing that doesn't lie is your confirmation bias

No they don't. We couldn't move the ball forward at pace in the first quarter - and scored a point They were brilliant at doing so in the first quarter - and kicked 5 goals 7. For the rest of the match we moved the ball more quickly and effectively than them - and outscored them and had 24 scoring shots to their 17. Our ability to move the ball effectively from our back half is evidenced by this data (particularly impressive given we were so poor in the first quarter) Points from defensive half For Against Match Season Match Season * 44 26.8 22 39.7 * Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Gold Coast.

That was a shocker- game was well and truly alive too

Blatant holding, or if nor HTB, throwing not paid. They goal

Billings again!

Apologies- wrong thread

Craven attempt goal successfull - 11 points down

Snap

Lever is having an all time mare.

Good thing Billings is such an accurate kick at goal - one goal down now

Luker!!!!!

Easy. Take my approach today - do stuff all.

Sticky hands - excellent mark on the lead

Ricky Mentha the only player looking a class above. Positive signs.

Good lord, our kicking is just appalling. Forget not VFL standard it's nor even local footy D grade standard.

I'm the opposite. I'm actually really confident about how well go today. We'll be as fresh as we're ever going to be given we're coming of our bye. Conversely, the AFL has done us a solid as the Suns are off a six day break and travel. And the suns gws game, which I watched, was a very intense, high pressure game with lots of arc to arc running so will be no easy thing to back up from. In terms of our method, we match up well against the suns I reckon. They have a leg speed advantage but i think our selection has in part looked to negate that advantage. I agree they will be desperate to win after 3 losses on the trot, but as you note so will we and I'm not convinced beng desperate to win nessarily translates to doing so (the Suns were desperate to win last week). Dees by 17.

I'm having strong flashbacks of my Melbourne high footy career, such as it was: very early game, hours before the ones strut their stuff absolutely woeful standard

Sorry, I keep forgetting the eye test and the vibe trumps data.

Thanks to @roy11 for that article by the by - they posted it in the stats file thread. My reply, which is relevant here, was: As ive noted on the pod a few times, we are implementing a new method based on fast transition (ie the modern game plan). And contrary to the views of some we are implementing that method, or at least the all important ball movement part of it, very effectively. As montagna notes (in the article) our issue is how we enter inside 50, and of course our woeful accuracy. Improve those aspects of our game and the gap between us and the very best teams closes significantly. Which is worth considering when assessing where we are at vis a vis the conversation on another thread about how woeful we supposedly are.

You want quicker movement of the half back hey. Being the second quickest in the AFL behind the cats not good enough for you? You think we should be number one? AFL 2025 SPEED OF BALL NUMBERS AFTER ROUND 15 (Fastest to slowest) 1. Geelong: Speed 114, Time 115, Distance 109, DTG 103 2. Melbourne: Speed 114, Time 123, Distance 113, DTG 100 3. Western Bulldogs: Speed 109, Time 108, Distance 101, DTG 109 Fox SportsAFL’s newest and most important stat: Speed of Ball expla...Truth in Pies shock as AFL’s fastest... and slowest teams revealed: Every club ranked 1-18

I hope Bergman is OK given he'll be a dee next year

I can. As ive noted on the pod a few times, we are implementing a new method based on fast transition (ie the modern game plan). And contrary to the views of some we are implementing that method, or at least the all important ball movement part of it, very effectively. As montagna notes our issue is how we enter inside 50, and of courseour woeful accuracy. Improve those aspects of our game and the gap between us and the very best teams closes significantly. Which is worth considering when assessing where we are at vis a vis the conversation on another thread about how woeful we supposedly are.

Pay that.

I hope so. And if we get him, whenever he plays well I can post this: