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If you seriously think the board had not already made a decision on Goody's future way before that board meeting then, in all due respect, I think you are being very naive.

Personally I think they should have honoured goodys contract and kept him as coach for next year. I think that because i agree with his and Paul roos assessment that we can be a genuine contender next season, in large part because I think goody has done a really good job implementing the new method and that work will bear fruit (I thought it was revealing he mentioned on 360 that he was confident of doing so because he had done so before in 2019 when he retooled our game plan, ironically from a high octane, fast ball movement method to ultra defence). But leaving that aside you are 100% correct jnr to point out the win loss record as being the core reason for his sacking. It's an immutable law of footy, all elite sports really, that lack of successwill eventually force a responses and the easiest of such responses is sacking the coach. It's the law of the jungle. It's why goody was surprised bur not completely blindsided. And it's also why Clarkson, whom many argue is the best coach of the modem era, will surely come under massive pressure early next season if the Roos rack up early season losses again. I'd add that if reports of us sounding out Beveridge and Roos way back in April are true that would suggest at least some on the board had marked Goody's cards and he was on borrowed time all season. Which may well be the lack of 'alignment and stability' Goody said on 360 he had not experienced this year. Which by the by is a perfect example of why focusing on the coach as the cause of a lack of success condem clubs like us, the bombers and the blues to being unsuccessful. Unless we sort our executive it won't matter a jot who coaches us.

Of course he presented to the Board, I'm not disputing that. It was a scheduled presentation and just like any such presentation by a coach to a board, particularly one 3 games pur from the end of our season, he of course gave his view as to where we are at and where we are heading. I mean what is else is a coach going to talk to a board about? The point us he wasn't pitching anything. As goody said on 360: 'I had a standard board meeting the week before, and didn’t have an inkling at that point' about being sacked.' If tha board had a different view about the purpose of that presentation, ie he had to 'pitch' for his job thenobviously didn't tell goody and they they are even more hopeless than I thought. And if the board genuinely think we need 'some kind of step or two backwards before it pushed forward' then they have zero chance of landing Buckley, or any other experiencedcoach fir tbat matter, as there'sno chance he's interested in a rebuild. And if that was the case, and as I said I call [censored] on it, then they have wasted everyone's time if they have, as has been suggested, had conversations with Buckley.

Thanks. I call [censored] on that. For one thing it is John Ralph. For another its a combination of supposition and if he hasn't completely made it up he is parroting what he us being leaked by a board member who has an obvious agenda to justify their decision. Yet another - if the club needs ,'some kind of step or two backwards before it pushed forward' tosh is coming from the board then it makes them.look like [censored] because it contradicts the general consensus that finals is a real possibility For example premiership coach Paul roos has gone on record to say we can win a flag next year. Buckley has said we can be competitive next and the consensus view seems to be he would not be interested in the gig if it involved regression and a rebuild. This is what Goody said about that board meeting, so not heresay or Ralph's game if thrones click bait musings: 'I had a standard board meeting the week before, and didn’t have an inkling at that point' about being sacked.

No it wasn't. I've heard nothing even remotely like that. Can you link to something, anything that goody pitched his vision for the team to the board after the Saints and that it completely tanked?

I'll def go to both of those games. And hopefully finals will be played at Ikon. And I might get to at least one Casey game (it's a three hour round trip by car so I'll probably combine with visiting friends on the 'ninch). But they have to get out of Casey - it's just too far away for most fans, not to mention the wind makes games so scrappy I haven't fully ruled out going on Sat night, but given I can get home and watch on the box on kayo and not miss any of the game it's unlikely. So stupid. If for example they played the men's game at 1:15 they would get a much bigger crowd, which makes for better TV and helps counteract the frustrating criticisms of AFLW that surface every season, one being that it's not as popular as it was.

George will be back. He is just taking a break for personal reasons.

I see your point - perhaps mess is too loaded and over the top. But I would argue there's plenty of evidence there are many examples of poor governance. The most important evidence is peformance. The executive (board and CEO) is responsible for setting the strategic direction of the club, it's goals and the actions to achieve those goals. All if that is articulated in the Strategic Plan. I came recall all the goals but i5 included on field success, increased membership, stability and a home training ground. Of those goals the could perhaps only claim stability as a success, and even then that clutching at straws given: We have an interim president who says he is not an interrom president, We have an acting CEO (who went for the job and didn't get it) The previous given a project management role to land the home base who has apparently departed the club (which i only learnt thru the press ladt week) Our CEO was appointed in April but doesn't start until after the season ends and Our President in waiting also doesn't start 'till seasons end It was telling that in goody's presser he emphasised how his early success was function of the stability he enjoyed, the inference clearly being he hasn't enjoyed in recent times There's last years review. How have we gone in terms of implementing its findings, whatever they were. One outcome of that review was we brought in Darren Shand to improve our on field leadership. That would have cost a pretty penny. How's that working out. They brought in Jones as a stoppages coach and paired him with another completey inexperienced assistant midfield coach. How's that working out And on top of all that the board should be judged by its decisions. One sych decision was in their wisdom they extended Goody's contact and subsequently decided to sack him with a year left on his contract. We are cash strapped and we are paying Goody a million dollars to sink schooners out at tge Sorrento hotel and get a cushy gig on Fox. Meanwhile that million comes from our soft cap severely hampering any efforts to surround a new coach with the best possible assistants or address any issues in the FD. And don't get me started on our comms! I have been trying to work out for days if Saturdays game is a member replacement game. Nothing from the club anywhere, no email and nothing on the website. So I assumed it wasn't. Until I got a text at 1pm today. Amateur hour. I mean do they want dees fans to go or not. And how about the value proposition for members? Thats all on the executive because at the end if the day the bucks stops with them. So whilst beinf a mess of field might be a litte unfair, our governance is well and truly in the same suburb.

I can't stand daisy Thomas, but he's right good clubs don't leak - unless they do so strategically. And by that I mean the executive doesn't leak (hard to stop plsyers leaking but if they are that's a symptom of a problem. People complain about how we get covered in the media and point out how the cats so often get a pass. But the reality is the Cats are as tight as a drum and either give the media nothing or give information strategically. The Cats control the narrative. The evidence is crystal clear we don't.

Fair dinkum, for all manner of reasons I'm so over the AFL. They are supposed to be the stewards of the game. They are ruining the men's game, for example refusing to address the appalling standard od umpiring and the joke they call the fix ture. And their management of the AFLW is even worse. It's a bloody joke. I live in the West and was super keen to go to this game, one of the few ill be able to make, because it's at Whitten Oval. Twenty minute drive from my place, watch a great game of footy then back home in 20 minutes. Perfect. But I'm not sure if it's feasible given the men start at 4:15 meaning it won't finish until 7pm. I'll be on PT so no chance of getting to Whitten Oval from the G By 7:30, and even if I could it's a big ask to expect fans to go to both games - for me it would mean leaving home at 3pm and nor getting home till near midnight (Whitten Oval is in a tricky spot for me PR wise and buses are replacing trains on my line after dark). It's just flat out pathetic. Do they wNtbthe AFLW to succeed or not?

That's what I would like to see.

Loafers, chinos, open neck crisp pale pink shirt (new), suit jacket (expensive but looks gritty), no tie and MFC pin.

The problem for us, as always is we gave up 67 points on turnover. That's the game right there (Funnily enough they scored 49 point from their defensive half, 2 points less than us. Taken together- ie scores from turnover and scores from defensive half - you get 6 points, which was the margin).

I was keen to see him in the ones to get a look at him. But on reflection i'd much prefer he play out the season at Casy and continue his development. Doing so also supports Casey finishing off the season strongly which i think has an outsize importance with all that has gone on. A strong finish by Casey puts a pep in everyone's step, partic if we also have a strong start to our AFLW season. And it creates an opportunity for our young players to gel, develop their own game and have a shared experience they can carry forward in their time at the dees. Plus it creates an opportunity for Fullerton to continue to thrive down back which could be a lifeline for his AFL career. @Ghostwriter do you know if Kolt, Sharp and Howes are eligible to play VFL finals (i'm assuming Cullley is)?

No. But can we modernise and call the thread "Is Nathan Buckley the right person?"

I wish i could say it was deliberate, Actually stuff it - it was deliberate!

I think jnr was responding to my post that we have averaged 92 points in our 7 games since the bye But your point remains valid, everyone gets to play the bottom sides. And besides our high scores in the game against the roos and Eagles was a function of our method and being attacking. Is also note that that strech of games included our game against the blues which was played in wet and windy conditions. I5s interesting that we are 10th for total scores but are also 18th for accuracy. That inaccuracy could well have been the final nail in Goody's coffin.

Good reminder about Jack being rhe reigning beast and fairest. He's a terrific player, a warrior, not to mention a heart and soul player who bleeds red and blue. For me the issue is as a mid he is a first class butcher, which is compunded by the fact he cant get deprh on his kicks. That wouldn't actually matter much if the other key mids were all elite ball users, leaving Jack to be the in an under grunt player all midfield need (eg libba). The problem is of the regular mids only koz is an above average kick, and as we saw on Sunday even he turns the ball over too often. Tracc and Clarry are both horrible kicks overy any distance unless less than 50 metres. Windsor is playing mid but his kicking us also hit and miss. Rivers last year, but is also a butcher (tgough does get depth woth his kicks) and realistically can't go into a midfield that has viney, tracc and claz in it. For me the logical role for Viney is a high pressure small forward who occasionally tags an oppo gun mid. We need such a player, particularly if koz is going to be a full time mid. He has the discipline fir the role, would be frightening for oppo defenders and actually has pretty good hoal sense. He is also a much better set shot than field kick and I'd he does turn it over at least it's deep on our forward line not thru the centre. And if Jack goes forward it frees up a midfield spot, which I reckon should be filled by Lindsay who is a beautiful kick, had the ability to weight passes, is tough and has played as a mid at junior level.

Are you Dermott Brereton?

Roos: "I think Melbourne is a different kettle of fish," he told the ABC AFL Daily podcast. "I think they're way better than people are giving them credit for. If you get the right off-season moves, I'll go on the record, they could win a flag next year. Not the year after, they could win a flag next year. "They've got 14-16 premiership players on their list right now. They won a premiership in 2021, they're not super old, so I think this is a different one." "If I'm someone like a Nathan Buckley, I'm not taking this job to resurrect this team. I'm taking this job to win a premiership in the next two to three years," Roos said. "That's the mandate, for me." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-11/afl-paul-roos-melbourne-premiership-coach-hunt-buckley/105639016

They did the exact same play last week with Bowey kicking it to Maxy from a kick out, maxy marks (curiously on his chestvlike yesterday) handball to a receiver who kicked it to Melk who went back and kicked the set shot.

Really? Oh yeah, different directive - the mindset. Boys play better footy today. Play with a different mindset. Be different to last week. And the week before that. And the week before that. Hell, play different to how we have since the bye! What's that Max? Ok sure, you've averaged 97 points since the bye, coming off the highest score of the season, including a 10 goal quarter. Sure, it snowed in Haddes the last time we scored 10 goals in a quarter. But i want a different mindset - be even MORE attacking.

More attacking than the previous week where we kicked 10 goals in a quarter, had our highest score for the season, scored 3 goals from a kick out and repeatedly went thru the corridor - including a carbon copy of the play down the middle yesterday (ie kick out to Max in the centre square, who gives off to a running player and kicks inside 50) And two weeks after going all out attack against the Saints for three quarter, kicking 13.8 by 3 quarter time?

To be perfectly honest, 100% yes. Completely aligns with the fact that, as i have been at pains to point out, we have really improved our transition and ball movement this season, particularly post bye - our average score in the 7 games post bye is 92 points. Our increased scoring is function of that improved ball movement and Goody deserves credit for his work implementing a different method, one that is really different to a method that brought senior players a flag.