John Crow Batty

Who can forget Garland's stirring speech after accepting a 3 year contract.

That will upset the fans up there. They are accustomed to having their favoured SA and WA sides play us. They don't care much about us, and the Saints would have the 'Who the Eff'are they appeal.

Let's hope his form stays throught the roof. I want to see affirmation of that on Saturday and the remainder of the season. I wish him well but in two minds given the post contract lethargy of many of our re-signings.

Sounds like a gen X or Y supporter. Not old and grizzly enough yet to wondering if there is enough time left to see a flag.

Though very cynical after a humiliating loss I always mellow and usually feel positive we can win again come next game day. This past game against WC gives me hope. Round 14, 1998 at Subiaco. WC were on a six game winning streak. We had lost our previous game not surprisingly against the saints by 85 points. And previous game to that, 95 points against Geelong. We went there with an undermanned side and the game was going to script by halftime as we were getting pumped. Then suddenly we came out breathing fire and overran them in what was IMO our most stunning upset ever. I was so shocked that I thought the game must have been fixed. See all the details on demonwiki and YouTube below with thanks to Supermercado. http://demonwiki.org/Round+14+1998

Anyone capable of excreting bodily waste and cultivating BO?

Bloodlust will be sated in Perth this weekend. May be safe to walk the streets on Saturday night over there.

Makes me scratch my head when groups who want to be considered as normal feel the need to give themselves labels to differentiate themselves. There should be a ban against labelling. Everyone should be called normal.

Wasn't just St Kilda. They were everywhere. And one never looked at a bouncer askance unless they wanted a pummelling.

The Ox is becoming a POBOD like many here. Once upon a time the Hells Angels bikers were known as the POBOB's(Pizzed Off Bastards Of Berndoo). Any idea's for a suitable patch to wear?

Well it has been normality since then.

A man walks into a restaurant with a full-grown ostrich behind him. The waitress asks for their orders. The man says, "A hamburger, fries, and a coke," and turns to the ostrich, "What's yours?" "I'll have the same," says the ostrich. A short time later the waitress returns with the order. "That will be $9.40 please," and the man reaches into his pocket and pulls out the exact change for payment. The next day, the man and the ostrich come again and the man says, "A hamburger, fries, and a coke." The ostrich says, "I'll have the same." Again the man reaches into his pocket and pays with exact change. This becomes routine until, the two enter again. "The usual?" asks the waitress. "No, this is Friday night, so I will have a steak, baked potato, and salad, says he man "Same," says the ostrich. Shortly the waitress brings the order and says, "That will be $32.62." Once again the man pulls the exact change out of his pocket and places it on the table. The waitress can't hold back her curiosity any longer. "Excuse me, sir. How do you manage to always come up with the exact change out of your pocket every time?" "Well," says the man, "several years ago I was cleaning the attic and found an old lamp. When I rubbed it a Genie appeared and offered me two wishes. My first wish was that if I ever had to pay for anything, I would just put my hand in my pocket and the right amount of money would always be there." "That's brilliant!" says the waitress... "Most people would wish for a million dollars or something, but you'll always be as rich as you want for as long as you live!" "That's right. Whether it's a gallon of milk or a Rolls Royce, the exact money is always there," says the man. The waitress asks, "But, sir, what's with the ostrich?" The man sighs, pauses, and answers, "My second wish was for a tall chick with long legs who agrees with everything I say."

If the quotes are truthful, I don't like them.

We were far better then though still poor. I posted the figures in another thread a while back. In the 1970-86 period we averaged around two more wins per season than 2007 to present.

My feelings too. Some will hope an honourable loss will happen and argue it will be an improvement. Excuses will be found.

I thought we would win against the saints also. WC's average winning margin over there is 63 points this season. Our average losing margin for the last 9 consecutive games against them is 61 points. The conundrum is; if we lose by our accustomed average or slightly less does this mean we are improving? I am sure the apologists and those inclined the way of the ostrich will seize on this blighted scenario if it occurs.

Sadly those with the fondest of all memories(flags) are starting to drop off the perch now.

Well he hangs around the club a lot and by his own admission embraces mediocrity and defeatism. A reflection of how the players perform actually. Time to introduce chicken feet and knobs of garlic to the club.

If a flag was what we only wanted we would be following Hawthorn today. Your disrespect for the opinions of supporters who have followed the Dee's all their lives without success is disgusting.

That is so profound and magnanimous in accepting mediocrity. You are wasting your time here. You should be saving the world. Yes, and the meek shall inherit the Earth.

No we don't, the're pencilled in wins.

WC are 8-1 this season at home. Only beaten by Adelaide. Average winning margin is 63 points. They beat St Kilda by 103 points.

Our last win in Perth was in 2004. That was against Freo. WC are vulnerable this season but are still flat track bullies at home and they just love tearing us up. I predict ugly.

Their clubs were never as hopeless as just about every club in the comp hasn't been for decades and they have had nothing to complain about in the past decade. Dermie did give Hawthorn several sprays when they had a few bad seasons in the early 2000's I recall.

I think there might have been a bit of deliberate calculated stirring by the Ox. He wants something positive to happen. The prognosis for this week in Perth looks seriously ugly. Our track record says so.