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TIme to stop looking for quick fixes, simple solutions, and white knights to ride over the hill to rescue us. There is no simple solution. There is no single saviour. Just as there is no single person or cause responsible. What we're seeing is a long period of neglect, mismanagement and poor decision-making, overlain by a couple of years of off-field strife - not all of our own making (Jimmy's death, Jurrah, Misfud) - the consequences of which have been magnified through being down the bottom at the exact moment when the AFL took the cream for two start-up clubs. We need to get some solid citizens into both the Admin and FD - Jackson seems a good start - and to get back to focusing on being a footy club again. We need to focus on the non-sexy stuff, of simply having a decent, well-run, unified club, in the hands of competent and experienced people. And when all that's there, perhaps we can turn our attention to the coach(es) and the players. Because until that's there, they - or their successors - just don't really have a chance.
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That could have been the straw that broke the camel's back ... for Sylvia. Has just been blazing away with his kicks, then goes and does that. Not a team player.
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We were mentally beaten after the Port match, and it's going to be much like that all year I suspect. Fragile. We just don't have the kind of leaders and experienced players that Geelong do to pull us out of it.
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Regardless of how badly we're going, GC gradually building into something. All those top draft picks one year down the track ... we're not going to be the only team they get on top of. Skills skills skills. Anyway, back to normal transmission. Where were we ...
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Max Gawn!!!!
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I believe that there'll be a bus along in a minute.
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Ouff. Thank god we at least included Sellar ... his chance to refind some of his solid form down back from last year. Maybe more going on with Tommy Mac than we know about ...
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Any chance of her sponsoring a few other players as well?
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Interesting article on Jackson Thurlow, Geelong recruit who played his first game yesterday. It shows up the gulf between where Geelong and Melbourne are, and helps explain why we've had such difficulty developing players, and why simply putting good young players out there (Viney, Evans, Matt Jones, Terlich etc. included) isn't enough: "The senior boys said that they would try and get me into the game early, so I can't thank them enough," he said. "The way they go about it and the way they involve everyone in it, there was no reason for me to not get a kick."
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That's not what they've been told. In fact, what they've been told is completely the opposite of that.
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Put them in alongside 10 players with more than 150 games, including the odd premiership.
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Serious? Every team has young players, that's not what it's about. It's about the lack of experience at the other end. We have no (i.e. zero) players with over 150 games this weekend, and our newly elected vice-captain in Garland has just over 80. When you look at the Geelongs, Hawthorns, Swans, they have a LOT more players up around and over 200 games, and that's where the experience is and is needed. Seeing you mentioned Geelong, apart from the younger players you mentioned they also had 8 players with more games than our maximum-game player (I'm taking the liberty here of discounting Rodan and Davey, given they're no longer, it seems, first 22). And not just a few more either, plenty of those have 50 - 100 more. Throw in Selwood (at 142, just 2 games less than Sylvia), and Rivers when he's fit ... it's a completely, completely different story. To put it another way, it'll take us 4-5 years to match the experience that Geelong had out there.
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There are clear and I would have thought, obvious reasons why the players who have been picked have been included - if you don't want to see them or acknowledge them, that's not an issue with the FD. Sellar was more than solid in the back half of last year as a KPD, was more than solid last week at Casey down back after a week of through illness, and deserves his chance. We were stretched by Brisbane and their talls, and having a third big defender makes sense, especially when the opposition starts resting their rucks in the forward line. This also reflects on the absence of Watts down back, as well as the fact that Dunn, another of our tallish defenders, seems to be moving into more of a run-with defensive role.
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What competent and experienced coach would be available before the end of the season? (apart from Roos, who has apparently ruled himself out ...)
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Mel v GC Int; McKenzie, Strauss, Sellar, Kent. Emerg; Rodan, Davey, Davis
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"... it can take up to five years for young players to learn the vagaries of playing in the AFL." Brendan McCartney "it's somewhere near three years for a young player to be confident in what's expected of them" Bomber Thompson Looks like our Mark isn't the only coach trying to shift the blame and dampen expectations.
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It's also called selecting players around the opposition line-up, and Rodan is at the very least, solid-bodied.
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Could be interesting, even if we're still a week away: The Tigers were already under the pump after losing three games on the trot, and the absence of Cotchin (knee), Vickery (concussion) and Grimes (foot) hurts their chances of turning things around. They have also lost Ricky Petterd to a calf problem. Vickery should be OK with a week off, but perhaps the others might need more time ... We certainly need all the help we can get, perhaps the injury gods will throw a little something our way.
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Just a little update courtesy of Brian Royal: "We're really pleased with Maia's progression. He's now progressed to training with the main squad. And we're hoping within the next couple of weeks that he'll be playing in the Casey Development team."
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Just pointing out that there are two sides to every argument, and that applies equally to the Magner situation. (and the Neeld one ...)
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Toumpas and Sellar are not interchangeable, either in age, experience or the position they play. With Dawes back in the side, and Gawn's ability to float forward, Sellar can go back to the position he was more than decent at last year, KPD, taking the second or third tall. Toumpas, Magner, Fitzpatrick etc. would NOT have helped us deal with their 3 talls. Having said that, I don't know that both Davis and Sellar will play, and perhaps if Dixon hadn't come up OK for them this week, the selection could have been different. Re Sellar: "He showed he had recovered well playing in defence and had a real presence taking six strong marks. He helped set up a lot the team's movement with his composure and clean skills."
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That's clear. As Royal put it, he just needs to get a few (more) games under his belt, as he hasn't played all that many full games. Also, so many here lament that we "gift" games to players: Toumpas was good for 3 quarters last week, and pretty ordinary for much of the week before. Needs to do it consistently for 2 or 3 matches at Casey before the lynch mob forms.
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Not possible to just stop and think before posting? Jesus C indeed: "we're well aware that Gold Coast will play three tall forwards, so that's why Davis and James Sellar are in the squad."
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It can be argued otherwise. They're a lot faster than what he is (just for starters). Magner is not the saviour, and if he was, he wouldn't be running round in the two's. He had a few decent games early last year, but was eventually found out at senior level. With another year under his belt now, who knows, but he'll get his chance.