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As if that's got something to do with anything. The guy who won the Brownlow this year was a Rookie pick.

Meanwhile, over on a gws board, posters are complaining that they were screwed on Frost.

Whatever it takes.

You can't be serious (though I realise you are ....) The key to why that hasn't happened is in your own post - would the words "under-performing" have anything to do with it? Under-performing? The only "un" here is that they're un-tradeable.

Lots of people talking about what Roos apparently said, below is what he actually said. It's a bit different to some of the claims being thrown around here - no mention of mids for example. Summed up in: "it’s going to be mixture of hopefully experienced players again and young kids." and .... "I’d like to bring in a couple more experienced players" "“My mandate is to make the club better and improve our list and we did that last year and we need to do it again in the off-season.” “I think a lot of it is getting through the trade week and just seeing what you end up in the trade week,” he said. “I don’t think we want to end up bringing in another seven or eight young kids – the Melbourne fans have seen that. We’d like to get some real high quality kids like we did last year. “We felt we did really well going into the draft last year and did really well in trade week, so I think it’s going to be mixture of hopefully experienced players again and young kids. “It’s hard to say absolutely until we get through trade week, in terms of numbers, but I think there will be a significant change to the list.” But Roos said the potential to recruit players with AFL experience again – a la Daniel Cross, Bernie Vince and Dom Tyson last year – was a priority. “I think so. I think Melbourne fans and maybe St Kilda fans can talk about a couple of years rebuilding because they’ve been in a couple of grand finals and my responsibility is to clean up the six or seven years [at Melbourne],” he said. “I don’t think Melbourne fans are going to cop rebuilding again – even though they know where we’re at. “I’d like to bring in a couple more experienced players and add to our squad and hopefully jump up the win/loss column – no question about that.” “My view is that all of your players are tradable and all of your picks are tradable. Last year, we did very, very well out of it with Dom and Christian,” he said

Flogging a dead horse Nasher. (commendable effort though ....)

Think it's pretty obvious why everything would hinge on the Trengove deal, as shown by the almost unanimous comments that "2 and 3 is overs" for Kennedy. 2 and 12 (or 3 and 12) would have been a very different kettle of fish. Or fowl.

Or not. Perhaps - just putting this out there, radical ideal I know - just perhaps, there was no conspiracy. But nah, probably too obvious.

He wasn't on the track. They were scans.

Might I suggest that anyone shown to be deliberately posting misinformation receive a holiday?

FWIW, Swans supporters outraged that it would "only" be 2 & 3.

More than three ... we just as often have to satisfy the player's wife/partner, other players in our own club, player managers, the AFL etc. etc.. Very long list.

One day, we'll all look back on this and laugh.

A few posts on BF from (different) Richmond supporters who "have spoken to people": deal is OK/done, but won't be announced today out of respect to Flower's memorial service. Make of it as you will.

Is that another clue?

Dons face China crisis as case against players set to be presented Game set and match you would presume. Only question is how long the bans will be, and whether or not Hird falls on his sword as promised.

Wait till she's 16.

It's because it's only "potential" that the numbers aren't higher. In reality, he just hasn't done enough.

We'll never know the full story, but I'd say he was completely on the mark with Clark. No-one inside or outside the club knew that after getting back to full health Clark would turn around and do what he's done.

Of course. But there are a lot more players who go the other way. Also, it's not as if he'd had 5 or 6 great years, and then a year off with an ACL, Trengove has never had one breakout year, yet alone a succession of standout seasons -he's just not had a chance to get going or established. I can certainly understand Richmond fans being wary of this deal (if it's true). If you judge Trengove by what he's actually done rather than what he did as an 18 year old, it's hard to see much that he's put on the field that would justify a particularly high pick.

Important to bear in mind.

None of us know the exact situation, I wouldn't be too quick to judge. These are professional footballers, with a short career that could be ended every time they step onto the field. I don't begrudge them their right to maximise their income. In any case, not sure what more Beams could have done to get to Brisbane? But now the cat's out of the bag, hard to see him going back either - though Dustin Martin tried his hardest to leave Richmond and had to eventually back down. On that note, will be interesting to see who calls whose bluff re Griffin/dogs.

Surprised no-one has mentioned it earlier. Above and beyond ability, there's "culture". Roos is, apparently, very big on culture, so it comes as a surprise, given Trengove's position and past. He's not quite at Junior levels, but still ... Perhaps post-Grimes and Jones, the club sees the future leadership group being built more around Viney than Trengove, or even, that Trengove is just too tied to a past that we're having trouble moving on from. Interesting one. Hugely mixed feelings myself, but we need to let this play out to see where we end up. Things are changing, that's for sure. As if losing Mitch for next to nothing after he'd done his Lazarus wasn't enough, or having Frawley move simply because he can (and get more money) ... The new face of professional football?

Wish people would stop mentioning Dangerfield in regards to every trade. Myopia.

Or not. 3 and 12 to Collingwood for Beames?