Rogue

That's hardly decision making.

:D

I agree. The run he can generate is something we really need, and it was a reason we held on to Ward for longer than we probably would have otherwise. Hopefully Buckley can improve his disposal more than Ward was able to.

I agree. Slightly off-topic, I wonder how Meesen feels about our overtures to Warnock.

I think you're being a little precious - the suggestion that if a player is asking for too much the Club must be tough is hardly tainting the players.

This year, both in the NAB and in the early part of the season, his chasing and second efforts were very poor. While many derided him for his turnovers, I thought his workrate was the major problem.

Interesting Buckley's been better in the second half of the season, as his workrate/defensive efforts seem improved. Wouldn't say he's the one I'm most excited about, though.

Like salt in the wound

Haha, yeah.

Doesn't deserve a game on the back of one performance, but I'd rather him ruck than Martin.

July 2008 'Most Improved' thread: http://demonland.ugbox.net/forum/index.php...l=most+improved Nothing's changed for me - still Garland.

There's been some progress, 75% done now.

CC said there'd be 'around seven' changes.

He can leave his own man so often because they're the third tall in the forward line, not the 'go-to' opposition forwards that need containing. Having a 'third tall' is great if you've got a first and second tall that can do a decent job on the power forwards, but it's an icing on the cake position.

Absolutely. Bailey's view on the Warnock presentation is here: http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/2...px?newsId=65835 Harvey's view is here: http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/2...px?newsId=65828

Baiely's view on Morton here - http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/2...px?newsId=65831 As I've said before, I'm a fan.

Lappin's gone: http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/2...px?newsId=65834

$75K in the past few days isn't bad.

Those players would be aware of where the Club's at, regardless of whether it was publically stated. The older guys won't achieve premiership success any sooner at Melbourne, regardless of the focus - if we were to attempt a quick fix, we'd create a situation where there was no potential for those players to see premiership success. The focus on youth is the only way we'll be in the hunt for a premiership any time soon, and if 27-28 year old players do look elsewhere for success, it may be a win/win for both parties. If their managers couldn't tell that these players were our future without it being publically spruiked, they should be sacked by their clients. Thus, I think this is a moot point. Any sponsor worth their salt will investigate where a Club's at when they come on board, and on-field is one part - but not everything. I'd suggest that Stynes' focus on youth, and references to his playing days, are an attempt to create a 'story' or 'narrative' about our current fortunes, which may help get sponsors involved. Furthermore, there's no viable alternative, unless Stynes and CC were to blatantly lie about timeframes.

Sure - list every player, along with the minimum value we'd want to make a trade. Virtually everyone is trade-able, it's just that for many we won't get the price that we think is right (whether that be importance to our structure/list, intangibles like leadership, etc) Garland would be better suited to the forward line than Martin IMO. Probably better suited than Rivers, too. To some extent, the latter. He's a very good footballer when fit, but he generally plays 'third tall'.

He's been discussed on here in recent times. I'm sure other Clubs are jumping over themselves to offer us top picks for a third tall defender who hasn't been on the park for two years. PS. Trading/draft board.

Caroline Wilson had this to say about Schwab:

Even if Fox doesn't take on the job, the following is positive: Anyhow, if Caroline Wilson is on the money, we should know soon.

I disagree. You're right re: value, though.

I'd take it in a heartbeat. Note that I like Green. I simply don't think he'll be around for our next flag tilt, and would prefer to take a top-5 pick that will be peaking then (if he's any good). Active thread in the trading/drafting board from Aug 14 here: http://demonland.ugbox.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=11470