DeeSpencer

Because he's terrible one on one and with Disco, Lever and Petty we have that role covered not to mention we have Adams, May and McDonald as key backs. St Kilda were reportedly offering 700k a year. Let's not blow that cash. We need to bank some up and chase mid/flanker talent and/or a quality tall who really improves us when the time is right.

Adams is in a contact year and also the right age to be physically ready to compete. I don’t think he’s much chop but he needs minimum 15 games to play through some mistakes and find out. Otherwise his development will stagnate and/or he’ll head to another club. Disco is a lock. Lever, Petty, T Mc and maybe even May for the remaining spot. I liked Wade because he could play both ends but Mihocek is the guy to structure around up forward and we’ve got 3 young guys, big AJ, Melksham, maybe some Petty. So it’s covered. Time to start churning the list with some high upside youth.

We lost interest in Derksen either due to his contract, injury or the new coach simply not valuing him. He’s yet to find a new suitor. There’s no indication trade price was the issue. Heath apparently has a contract locked in. The trade is largely a formality and if it doesn’t happen we’ll get him anyway.

Worse case scenario for Heath is PSD or DFA. It can’t be snagged. He’s not good enough for a snag

They’re sitting on over 5000 points and are going to shuffle all their picks back and collect points in every deal aside from what they send us. If they gave us 7 and 8 for Tracc we’d throw in at least 2 if not all 3 of our 20’s and 40’s to counter the points loss of one of those picks. They’d still have 3500+ points. More likely they’ll do a deal for one of those picks to West Coast for 13, picks worth more points and a non bid for Uwland. 8 for 13, 34 and 38 and Uwland doesn’t go until pick 3. That banks 300 more points and slashes their bill. They give us 13 but we give back 28 and 42, they only lose the 300 points they gained with shuffling 8 to 13. Then same with their picks in the teens that they’ll auction for more points. 15 to north for 25 and 26. That’s 200 more points. Plus Fiorini and Answorth both fetching a little something. Either way. They can pay a fair price for Tracc and still have the 4000 points they need without giving up a quality player.

I’m yet to see any reporting from last year that the cats offered a future first rounder and even if they did I don’t think it came with any significant cap relief. Ie. We’d have been paying the 500-700k pa that we’d pay this year. The only reporting on an actual deal was Jake Niall I think said the cats would offer a pick or cap relief but not both and were light on details. Geelong’s first rounder that will blow out to around pick 28 might be better than GWS although I hope we get 34 or 37 (which becomes 40-45). But I’m still totally fine with us giving it the one more year to see if we could turn Clarry around. The best thing for us would’ve been Clarry rediscovering his form and massively increasing his value. Instead he was kind of ok and we haven’t really lost much. Same thing for Tracc. He had no offers last year due to his health and reluctance to move interstate. 12 months later we should still get value for him.

We can pretend but it’s simply not true.

They’ve committed to making a fair offer for Tracc, they have plenty of picks to do that. The only way they trade Humphrey is if they think it’s untenable not to and so far Humphrey doesn’t have the leverage to really blow this up.

Saints have: 50 and 65 We have: 42, 61 and 66 If the Saints are open to 61 for 65 then we’ve got a deal. Otherwise no harm keeping as many balls in the air as possible to get what we can from GWS as well as GC.

Early days but of the open pool players seems like it’s: Duursma, CDT and maybe Robey then a gap to Sharp, Taylor plus another 5-8 guys. If Richmond trades out its almost certainly going to be pick 4 and I’m not sure there’s a blue chip talent worth going up for

Paying his salary for just gets him to his actual salary worth. 700k is Jamie Elliott money, that’s what he should he earning (at most). Whilst he has upside he also has significant downside if he continues as a non damaging accumulator with poor defensive running. I couldn’t value him above McVee for instance. Not on 700k for 5 years.

Collingwood don’t have one and GWS won’t give one up. A pick in the 30’s seems fair. But we should try to nab a GWS player too. They’re linked to Tom Berry, that would make 100 small forwards on their list, one should be ours

Not sure that leaves the subs with enough points, think we throw in 27 and 41 and go after 6 and 7.

Freo and Judd part of this dirty deal. (Us too, but we were just eating the [censored] sandwich)

By the way, the eagles giving up 22 and an upgrade for Starcevich that then convinced Brisbane to pay overs for Oscar Allen is straight up corruption. Disgraceful stuff. 16 clubs should be demanding the Lions especially get investigated and punished. It’s disgraceful

We should’ve got something closer to that, you don’t lose ability at 22 after a hammy injury. Just a down season

A few? We have 2, worth about pick 60 combined

He’s the same player FFS.

The only way we’d need that is if we will use all 3 seconds to get both the Suns early picks

19 will be at least 28 by the time it gets used, still unders but a step in the right direction

Forget the off season, the in season was more distructive

Tracc is doing Tracc. Tim Lamb seemed delighted Spargo got a great deal at North. Oliver and May getting the push out - for a raft of reasons but also to open space in the team for young players. It’s very reflective of the need for change (and in itself is the change) but not that the place is a disaster. If it were going that badly I don’t think we’d have been able to draft a rookie like Judd and turn him in to a very competent afl player. One who could’ve been part of a good young crop already coming through. Loyalty is tricky because obviously each year clubs have no loyalty to the 10 or so they delist. But at the same time it’s actually better for players, teams, the comp in general if guys stick around. The US sports model of aggressive roster turnover isn’t healthy for anyone. And especially in the NBA it’s ended up with a heap of tanking teams that’s impacted the league financially.

I think there’s merit in the preferred position stuff, but at the same time 2 back pocket options in Hore and AMW got injured and Howes who was expected to improve and own the spot didn’t. So there were a few things conspiring against Judd playing back flank last year that could be fixed quickly. I suspect the bigger reason he’s gone is because Freo have laid out a clear path to finals footy for the next 5 or so years. They are so well placed to consistently be in the top 4 hunt. Meanwhile we aren’t. Some of which is natural regression after a run at the top. Guys like May, Gawn, Viney, Salem are slowing down no matter what and others like Lever have had repeat injuries. But there’s no doubt some of that decline is just poor management across the entire club. It’s disappointing a player plucked from the rookie list doesn’t show more loyalty. He was picked from obscurity and found himself a key cog in a contending top 4 side, even if just for a year. It’s particularly annoying after we’ve changed the board, ceo, coach, most assistants. We didn’t exactly need Judd to go to highlight the need for change!

Collingwood were forced in to a fire sale because they’d overpaid a bunch of players. Clarry’s life got tipped upside down when his girlfriend got sick of his [censored] and he went way off the rails. He’d just about never missed a game and was a super hard trainer. Easy to criticise it in hindsight but no one was saying it was a bad deal at the time. If there was a mistake it’s clear we tied our contracts to cap rises. Clarry’s 7 years 7 million bumped to 1.3/1.4 based on the cap rises. My understand is most teams did this so it’s not unique or damaging but Clarry would be easier to move if we just locked in a fixed price.

2 first and a second with some late stuff back is as good as you’ll see for any uncontracted player. More than we paid for Lever for example. How is that folding?