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Yes it is a reality check, but im sure the boys will be very disappointed, and want to atone for it by training their butts off,and beating the saints round one.

Didnt play like a gun today, neither did anyone else though.

No reports so far on whos going ok or not. Musnt be many there today.

Is Viney playing?

JKH? Tyson? Michie? vince?

Is anyone there to give some sort of progress as to which players are doing well and which are not?

Whos on Roughead?

Could Howie be our saviour at full forward with so many injuries to tall forwards?

If anyone sees hogan today can u ask him when he thinks he may be back?

Bail. Pederson JKH Howe. Fitzpatrick Toumpas Watts. Viney. Vince Dunn Mcdonald Grimes Trengove Frawley Terlich Spencer Jones. Tyson Blease,Michie,Cross,Georgiou Pretty confident this Will be close to how they will line up now.

He's that photographer guy.

2 to 3 weeks

Mahoney said early signs were positive. If itwas really bad, he wouldnt uave even been considered to play hawks, yet he was named. Im hoping for round three or four.

I think we just have to wait until we hear from the club this afternoon.

Paul Roos said he wouldn t play this week, but beyond that they dont know. This was tweeted by Nick McCallum

Looks like Pedo and Fitzy are our key forwards this year.

Suspected stress fracture.

Bad news , Jesse hogan has injured his back. Suspected stress fracture.

Blease and Bail will survive out of that crew.maybe nicholson will be reinvented. With cross, Michie, vince and tyson in the side the others have to show something special which i dont think they have. Strauss is a good kick but poor defender. Nicholson a poor kick. Jetta just goes alright but not good enough. Evans is a good depth player There looks like more x factor in the new bunch of kids , like , Hunt ,Harmes, Salem JKH and King. I think georgiou has already shown up strauss. I could be wrong and would love to give these guys this year and the benefit of doubt to prove themselves under a new coach.

Watts consistently takes good pack marks.

Disagree here i think it will be a close one.

This guys the complete package, great hands and awareness...strong body. Could be the clearance player we are after. Look forward to a partnership between he and Viney develop over the years.

You miss the point. Most players on our list, have deficiencies, what im saying is that even though you or i believe Robbie was perfect,there are others on this site that would find fault in almost anyone if they look hard enough, like the Watts debate, they cant see the forest from the trees,he has great skill, speed and marking ability ,and is working on other aspects if his game like tackling. In Roos game plan he is mot meant to be the in and under, he is the go to man who delivers with precision. Not as simple as argument fail im afraid Beezlebub.

There are some on here that would have even criticised Robbie flower for not tackling enough ....fact is it takes all sorts to make a team. The tough in and unders, the big forwards, the zippy rovers and goal sneaks and the runners and skillfull go to players. Its the balance as a team that counts, all players have strong and weak areas in their games. It takes a good coach to gel the team, and bring the best out of his players.

Greg Wells was pretty good