Dr. Gonzo

Agree whole heartedly with Royal. OUT - Green, Bennell, Macdonald, Jamar, Sellar IN - Couch, Moloney, Tynan, Tapscott, Martin Possibly also Bail for Morton as well though Morton doesn't give me much hope. Moloney lucky to come back in but I think he deserves another chance considering his last couple of seasons.

Hahahaha if you think we have achieved anything since 1964 I'd love to hear about it. I've been following the Demons since 1987 and I haven't witnessed any success whatsoever only heartbreak & misery from teams which either show promise but don't fulfil it or teams that just don't even front up.

Richmond will win by around 40 points, you can bank on it.

Yeah when they mentioned Royal as our midfield coach I almost straight away though "oh OK, at least it makes a bit of sense now." What did they say that Jamar and Royal (or Neeld?) were having a go at each other at 3/4 time? I know the media beats things up so this may have been nothing more than frustration but it didn't sound good.Imagine what the young guys would be thinking watching one of the few older players in the team have a yelling match with his line coach.

Yeah that's true it's just frustrating to see so much potential go to waste - I mean why waste our time on guys like Joel Mac or Green we know they're finished.

No that was the u18 state carnival TAC Cup is the under 18 comp (northern knights, eastern ranges, dandenong stingrays etc)

He might have been "good" last week but it's all relative. The same deficiencies in his game last week (uncontested cheap possessions) are what led to him having a rubbish game today. Grow some balls Jack and put your head over the ball. I want to see him demand the footy instead of just hanging back for cheap touches and making himself second to the ball so he can lay a soft tackle (or more likely corral) the opposition instead of owning the ball himself and copping a whack. I don't hold much hope this will change he's a private schoolboy who was protected I the APS instead of playing TAC Cup.

I've seen this a few times now and I call BS on this - how can you lose the players after one pre-season? If it is true then it is an indictment on the players and not the coach - the players have to go not the coach. What right do they think they have to complain or whinge about the coach when most of them have been rubbish their entire careers? The mindset that would require that train of thought is just astounding. Or it could be the players are just soft lazy and rubbish. They were last year and it looks like nothing's changed.

I agree to some extent. But Neeld is coaching his second game - this isn't the old days where you start swinging changes as soon as your down a few goals or getting thumped. The coaches are all about structures and dscipline these days. The game is well over but he will still be looking at which players are running, which players are structuring up, which players are playing to the "gameplan".

Was thinking what are the odds for Neeld going batshit crazy in the press conference and taking down a reporter or two?

Bad kick from Green but ATTACK THE FOOTY FFS WATTS. Starting to believe the doubters here, he is playing like another in a long line of front running downhill skiers at MFC who don't like body contact.

It's days like this I kind of wish the MFC would just go belly up and put us all out of our misery. Then maybe I can go and watch some real footy for a change and be entertained instead of just being stressed all the time.

Geez that Darling bloke looks like he could be alright. Can't believe no-one had heard of him before draft day.

Where are our players? F'ing lazy front running prima donnas.

How about 23-1?

Clark hasn't been the worst and the delivery has been rubbish - having said this he has been caught behind too many times and doesn't seem to put in repeated efforts. If the ball doesn't drop in his lap he doesn't seem to want to know about it and has been content to just watch it rebound out. Also far too often their players are given way too much space. One instance there was two WCE players with two MFC players trailling them by 5-10 metres. The ball comes to them and they just stroll it off our HFF with no pressure. This has nothing to do with class or talent, it is just laziness.

And Watts and Trengove have barely touched the footy.

Prepare for an avalanche of rubbish free kicks to us in the backline in the last quarter to square it up to somewhere near respectable levels.

Was that within 5? Looked close to off the ball.

Another rubbish free to them right in front - he ducked into the tackle you moron.

And thats the problem isn't it? Would be nice to be able to watch a game with some expectation that we might be able to actually compete.

Will Clark be the highest paid player at Casey next week?

Clark play in front - doesn't matter how skilled or talented you are anyone should be able to do the fundamentals - this is what destroys us time and time again.

Sellar just pushed off the ball by Schofield - weak as urine.

Stupid play Melbourne get it out of the danger zone FFS don't turn back into trouble.