Dr. Gonzo

It's our decision making as much as our skills. Check out the vision they showed on the couch - we just continually burn teammates in better positions because we have the blinkers on, "full steam ahead" - they need to get into a flow and be aware of the situations around them, at the moment it's all manic manic manic which leaves us exposed when it inevitably breaks down. Funnily enough since dwelling on this since yesterday's game I've come to think we aren't that far away. We just need to be a bit smarter with our ball use, a bit more patient as Max said, shake up the lineup so we have another key forward, some better ball users, some more experienced heads out there and we can start rolling again. The problem is it feels like it's that final few percent that are the hardest to achieve and whether we are actually capable of getting there is another issue. It feels like Sisyphus, we've rolled the boulder almost to the top of the hill - but we all know how that story ends....

Gutted? I am furious

How the [censored] is Weideman supposed to develop when we don't even have a dedicated coach to teach him forward craft. Who is he meant to be learning from, TMac? Amateur hour! If you want a return you can't cheap out on the investment. It feels like there is so much wrong at the moment, it is totally disheartening. Every thread I read on here I think of another 5 things that aren't being addressed or have been done wrong. You could write a thesis on this club.

I live on the other side of the Yarra so have never been to the Bentleigh club but if this is true it is a disgrace.

Sorry but that is a copout. The core of the group is the same, particularly the young midfield core who was expected to take this team to the top. Losing that experience might account for a drop from top 4 to top 8, but not to bottom of the ladder. As Dermie and King pointed out last night on first crack (worth a watch as they discussed us for a good 10-15 minutes) the coach/club have the list they want. They built this list and have the players they wanted and the areas of the ground they invested in. We also have basically no injuries to players who are in contention for senior selection.

That's a copout though, this isn't some ragtag group of bush footballers. This team made a prelim less than 2 years ago. With extra development into these players, many who are or have been highly rated, we should be making finals at the very least. We were 17th last year and currently 17th this year and on current form across the comp there is not many teams we would beat.

Jeez this is depressing I'm 38 and the thought of being 50 and still never having seen a flag....I don't even know how to verbalise that emotion

King has 10 cm on him plus reach and is quick off the mark. He also has a highly skilled Suns midfield delivering him the ball. May's form has been ok but he is outmatched when it comes to King.

In addition to this - if the players don't possess the skills to execute your gameplan, then you need to alter the gameplan to give the players at your disposal the best chance of success.

Mate Gold coast and Hawks will cream us. Watch Ben King towel up Steven May just to rub our faces in it

I'm assuming around a mil. He'd be on ~$500k a year wouldn't he?

While I agree - until we eradicate the idiotic turnovers and select the team who should be playing we are going nowhere.

Exactly. My mum msgd me before the game to say I thought it was our home game? How come all the focus is on Richmond? I said it's because Richmond might actually do something this year while we are completely irrelevant. It's not that they don't rate us, it's that they don't even think we are worth talking about.

What does Goodwin do on GameDay though? Does Goodwin select the team on a Thursday? He is the one who selected Smith on Riewoldt and kept him there. He is the one who refuses to play a 2nd tall forward. He is the one who won't play Jones or Jetta whenwe are crying out for onfield leadership. He is the one who won't play Bennell when we are crying out for good ball users. He is the one who refuses to play Harmes in the middle and persists with Oliver and Viney though they are both one dimensional players who have had zero impact on games for 18 months. I could go on.

That annoyed me too, but I think his scoff was more along the lines of "coaches/footy departments/clubs are always under pressure" They must know the supporters are fuming at the moment. Cost them $500 today because if we won I reckon I would've bought 2 of those footy jumpers they're flogging. Not holding back out if spite, just don't feel the impetus to part with my cash when I'm feeling so disheartened with the club.

Promising??

I agree to an extent and have posted as much - but what changes did Goodwin swing midgame when it was obvious we were going down again. Smith forward?

Positive - season is only 17 games Negative - season won't finish til October

Oliver has gone from a potential top 5 player in the comp to a vfl player What the [censored] has happened? Drunk his own bathwater?

So obviously Smith out for omac next week Weid and Jones in for Melksham and Vandenberg Jones in for Viney

Fritsch has been poor, cost us multiple times with poor disposal especially early

Starting midfield next week Gawn Petracca Harmes Brayshaw

He was pretty good last week too I thought, at least he took the game on

Get Joel Smith off for fixks sake!!!!

https://youtu.be/D1EDKvXRKd0