Dr. Gonzo

Is that the first time we've ever beaten a team with Buddy in it?

Did Oscar get injured?

Bring on the Saints

Carna Demons!! Great win

Hitouts 50-10 Clearances 30-29 How is that possible???

How about performing to a standard where it's impossible to drop you or alternatively showing your wares for prospective buyers in the offseason? Some pride in your own performance? These excuses for guys on a few hundred grand are laughable.

We don't have to rebuild we just need to add some class/pace.

Yeah we do apparently

Alternatively they've been building from the inside out. Now we've got the grunt sorted we can draft the polish. We tried the other way round previously and it was a disaster

You been watching this year?

I've been rewatching the Sopranos and watched this one the other day. My god I was in tears, what a brilliant show. I forgot it was just as much a comedy as anything else.

He's not fat. What are your skinfolds like?

I don't buy it. Bailey would've got the job partly on the back of his strategy to "rebuild the list" with everything that goes along with that. We got screwed in 2007 by Carlton tanking the Kreuzer Cup, we got screwed by the rule changes that would've seen us draft Watts AND NicNat in 2008 and most Melbourne supporters and the FD knew what the goal was in 2009. Its disingenuous to claim it was a "disgrace" in hindsight, Melbourne supporters would've been ropeable if we didn't secure picks 1 & 2 in 2009 by winning a meaningless game or 2. We all thought we were recruiting Hodge and Judd to set up the premiership midfield for the next 10 years. Some of the things they refer to as evidence of tanking (playing players out of position, sending players off for surgery, being extra cautious with slightly injured players) has been happening forever and a day even before priority draft picks. It's called intelligent list management, Sheedy was doing it since the 80s.

No runners in general play exacerbates having Lewis our as an onfield organiser.

They can both take contested marks across half forward, something we desperately lack at the moment. Melksham and Petracca took a couple each in the 2nd quarter and we got on a bit of a roll.

There is some truth in what you've written but you've gone to the other extreme in completely disregarding the good form and progress we made last year. People don't like hearing it but we are still a young team, especially our core group. This year is a write off for me but I'm still optimistic about the team in the long term.

We can blame the umpires but they were pretty terrible all night for both teams. The turning point for me was Hunt and in particular Harmes missing sitters in the 3rd quarter. Harmes misses and they take it down and kick a goal instead of 2 goals the margin is 4 goals.

Who cares? Teams tank for draft picks in any sport in the world. I supported it then and I would again if the situation arose. Difference between us and Carlton? The Blues have no issue with doing what needs to be done and have for decades.

I know noone wants to hear it, but we are still a young side. On the coverage last night they said we fielded the 2nd youngest side in round 1 (behind Good Coast I assume?) I'm as impatient as anyone for success but it's not this year or bust. This team has been built for the long haul.

True but I was also putting the kids to bed ???

Similar to a few games last year, it tells me we're not that far away. We executed the fundamentals well but just didn't have the touch or polish to finish it off on the scoreboard. Our small/mid forwards are a problem, fix that and the tide will turn very shortly.

Just go back through the "Is Goodwin The Right Guy" thread started after that game to find out

In about 50 weeks.

Maybe because the supporters throw in the towel at the first sign of difficulty?

Agree mate I actually thought we played much better than last week (although I stopped watching at 3/4 time).