Dr. Gonzo

So who makes way for Brayshaw in the middle? Petracca Oliver or Viney?

That is completely different. Libba probably the only true "grunt" in that lot.

He's not wrong, the problem is we won't trade Oliver and Brayshaw has minimal trade value.

As bad as Hannan has been I would've rather kept him in the side over Brayshaw. At least Hannan bobs up every 3 or 4 games with a couple of goals, Brayshaw has done nothing for a year and a half

It's not working

How the f--- is Brayshaw still getting a game? He has been putrid

I see Brayshaw is still getting a game. That probably answers your question.

And good luck to him too.

Which year Pates?

Which is why it's hard to lay the blame solely at Goodwin's feet. There are things he can do better of course but when the players stink it up like they did last Thursday you could have Norm Smith in the box and it wouldnt matter

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" - Mike Tyson

On the article, I didn't think it was much of a deep dive. Pretty lightweight overall, only really reiterated what most people already know about our issues and didn't offer any thoughtful solutions.

So who is the midfield coach? Mathews? Or is Plapp pulling double duty?

I thought he was our midfield coach? Either way I don't think he's good enough

We've played in our home state 3 times

Exactly - the way we were dissected in the Prelim as well as against Richmond, Hawthorn and Collingwood earlier in the year should've been enough to warrant a review. I said at the time (at the beginning of the Goodwin thread) that he needed help with a better team if assistants around him. 30 months on and we still have Plapp, Chaplin, Rooke and Egan not to mention Mahoney in key roles despite little evidence to indicate they are actually good at their roles! And that's without even mentioning the lack of a forward coach.

That's good news but a year too late! The external review should've happened last year (or at the end of 2018 some would say!)

Who will our kickouts go to????

Anyone want to PM me the article?

Most of the examples you've raised above are attributable to Josh Mahoney not Jason Taylor

Would rather Sam Mitchell but seems he's Hawks coach in waiting.

How did that work out for him tonight?

It's all well and good to say put Brayshaw in the centre and play Harmes as a tagger but they were in those positions when Petracca was playing limited midfield minutes and Viney was injured. Viney, Petracca and Oliver are our starting mids, you need to shift them out of the centre if you want to give Brayshaw and Harmes more midfield minutes and Brayshaw and Harmes at not as good as any if those three. Perhaps Viney could go forward but then we lose the drive he gives us like he did in the final quarter vs Lions. Perhaps Oliver could go forward but he has never been a proven goalkicker. If Brayshaw/Harmes can't play wing or either half-back/forward then they are nothing but depth and really surplus to requirements.

If you went into the game expecting that performance I can't help you.

Haha I messaged my dad this morning saying why the hell did you make me support this ****house [censored] club I envisioned my kids sending a similar message to me in 30 years time