Dr. Gonzo

But we we were still tackling, which requires effort. We were second to the ball because their two A grade ruckman were giving their mids silver service against our three pinch-hitters.

His early season games were poor, he's really hit some form the last 5 or 6 weeks though since being put back on the wing FT. Earlier in the year he was being played across half forward and went missing for long stretches.

We were +18 in tackles and -36 in contested possession. Not great but not what I would call a lack of effort. We got beaten by a better side, in better form.

Instead of dissenting and telling others not to post negative opinions, a futile pursuit, perhaps you should just post positive opinions and balance up the ledger.

So why trade him in? Give him a run and see. Some players do better when given a challenge. The other thing is having him in would settle our forward line and make their defence more accountable without needing to throw Petty/JVR in there.

And suppressing the negative sends people round the bend. You're really surprised at negative posting after a 50 point loss to a team who beat us by 15 goals about 8 weeks ago?? I get why people vent on here after a loss. I don't get why people want to lecture them for doing so. Life's too short, right?

Maybe, just maybe, they use it as an outlet to vent? Probably better than kicking the cat, right?

He may not have made a 10 goal difference but he would have competed and allowed out mids a chance to win at least some clearances. This would have then allowed our defence to have a breath in between the ball being hammered down their throats and would've given our forwards an opportunity to do something with the footy. We were a chance to be within 3 goals at half time but Kolt got caught holding the ball streaming forward and then Walters kicked a goal on the siren making it a 5 goal difference. Having an actual ruckman competing in the middle may have given us an opportunity.

I'm a supporter but he has had a poor year

We got belted, yeah, but I didn't think we were deplorable. Having no ruck killed us and our mids weren't able to win clearance to make up for it. From there our defenders were hammered and our forwards couldn't get near it. We had patches where we kicked some consecutive goals but never really threatened. Probably lucky not to lose by more to be honest but I didn't think it was through lack of effort, we were just outplayed/outclassed. Freo are a decent side who seem to have put it together after a few years of threatening and are printed to make a run for the flag. Today just showed we are more of a 6-10th side at the moment rather than a top 4 team.

Hubris. We got away with it in the wet against a B grade ruck combo but on a dry-ish deck against one of the best if not the best ruck combos in the league it was always going to bite us. You can say "oh yeah a VFL ruck is going to be the difference in a 10 goal loss" but it just gave us no chance, being on the back foot from the get go, unable to win a clearance and the ball locked in their forward line for a large portion of the game.

It's already ugly just hasn't translated to the scoreboard yet but give it 5 more minutes.

We're lucky not to be down by 10 goals already. Bombing it down the line with no ruckman isn't working, need to run and overlap to break through their zone. Winning a clearance or 2 would be a good idea as well.

King has been terrible, single handedly costing them the game.

Yes I do if the AFL is serious about protecting the head. His tackle was dangerous in that he launched at Taranto dropping his full bodyweight down due to having no contact with the ground. He also had both Tarantos arms pinned. In the new environment that should be a suspension as Taranto ended with a concussion. Great effort by Bedford but he breached his duty of care to Taranto in the way that he tackled and should have been suspended. 3 weeks probably too much but at least 1 week. Cameron the same, he drive him backwards he could have held Duggan up in the tackle or turned him sideways. Duggan's head was unprotected and he had both arms pinned with Cameron driving him backwards and so unable to protect himself. Suspension every day of the week.

Stupid idea, like the "night GF" and other brain farts the AFL and their compliant media roll it out whenever it's a slow news day or, in this instance, when they want discussion diverted from how poorly the game is being administered/umpired.

What a joke these appeals are, the AFL is a three ring circus. The AFL.com article states "Whilst we accept that the Tribunal found the conduct to be unreasonable, which is one element of the offence, it completely failed to consider the second critical element of the offence: that is, whether the conduct was likely to cause injury. "Absent that consideration ... we consider that the Tribunal did fall into an error of law that had a material impact on its decision." The conduct DID cause injury, so why are they arguing the tribunal didn't consider whether it was likely to cause injury? It stands to reason that there was a likelihood it would occur, because it did occur. These clowns just make it up as they go, can't wait til they get sued into oblivion by the players who have suffered long term health issues due to concussion.

Yep I believe so

Cost them the minor premiership and possibly the premiership too. Great day at the footy, the only time I went to Vic Park for a real game (saw a praccy there once).

Find a way to tank for a priority pick so we can get both?

He is in the San Diego (now LA) Chargers hall of fame as a punter. Paved the way for the likes of Sav Rocca (Philly Eagles) and Ben Graham (NY Jets).

Love both those albums, Endtroducing could play on repeat for hours

I love Salem but I think relying on him to play a critical role moving forward is fraught with danger.

My favourite Demon of all time, nothing excited me more than going to the footy to watch Jako. The Wiz the only other one in the same league.