Dr. Gonzo

And JVR played solely as a key forward, none of this second ruck garbage. Drop Petty and play Campbell as backup ruck.

C'mon, his off field stuff is not just "mental health".

Viney half forward pinch hitting in the middle, Petracca mid with stints up forward, Oliver trading block.

How much time? Had at least two preseasons now. I'm not buying it, these guys are making excuses for themselves and each other. If it takes so long to change a gameplan explain Collingwood's form from 2021 to 2022. It's garbage, telling players to run and carry instead of bombing long, position yourselves differently in the forward line, kick to the fat side etc etc It's not rocket science it just takes good coaching (ie clear communication and expectations).

I wonder how much Pert was paid as a consultant for the last 10 or so months without producing anything.

Prelim, flag, no finals, 1st - do you think you can figure out why they get a "free pass" from the media?

They're playing footy not solving the unified field theory.

We have 7 games in Vic to end the year, swings and roundabouts

Dew -> Hardwick Cameron -> Kingsley Clarkson -> Mitchell Are you of the opinion there is never any point to changing coaches? Coaches should only leave on their own merits?

I hear ya! When Sparrow marked Tracs miskick first thing I said to my son was "why is he going so far back? He is a couple of metres from the goal line just needs to step out and pop it through" then after the inevitable miss "why did he try and kick the skin off it!!!" We are all traumatised by this club haha

Does anyone actually believe this will come to fruition? I'm firmly in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. Is Pert still collecting a paycheck?

This thread is so depressing 😔

Or a terribly coached football team

You're of the opinion Collingwood made the wrong choice sacking Buckley?

He isn't getting moved sideways, we either but the bullet or stay the course. The club needs to weigh up the cost of keeping him in lost membership/gameday revenue vs payout figure.

Professional footy players should not be missing those, you would be ropeable if they were park players missing them let alone supposedly elite athletes. Unforgiveable, they should feel horrible about that failure of basic skill execution.

We're in for a world of hurt either way. I would cut bait with guys like Oliver, Petty, Fritsch and take what we can get for them and clear out the deadwood/list cloggers (about a quarter of our list guys like Laurie, Woey, McAdam, Fullarton, Sharp, Verrall, Billings etc) and go for a massive revamp with a new coach.

Salary dump then.

Does Oliver still have currency?

Has to be dropped for the GC game surely?

Goody coach for life!

Everyone can see it, why is it not being fixed? Langford can start attending centre bounces next year, Lindsay and Windsor can pinch hit as well. They may be 3-4 years away from starting to hit their prime but they can definitely compete in the middle and use the ball better than our current crop (bar Kozzie).

I agree he is a star and probably the greatest ruckman of the modern era if not all time. He is also a fantastic leader and seems like a great bloke. None of that detracts from the fact his goalkicking is deplorable and so often lets the team down. He should be taking additional time to work on his technique during the week, the fact he misses the same way every time is what is frustrating as it shows he is doing nothing to address it. I agree saying he is an anchor is ridiculous but his set shot kicking has to be addressed (along with most others in the team).

On point 1, is it a surprise that we competed better auerially up forward when Turner was shifted there? We've been crying out for that for weeks! Not only having Turner there but having him alongside other talls. JVR looked good early then was shifted to ruck/bench and taken away from the forward line no wonder he struggles to find form. Turner must stay forward, JVR must stay forward and not ruck. Bring TMac back and either put him in defense to replace Turner or move Petty back (he is absolutely useless forward) and TMac or Jefferson to the forward line. On point 2, what does he expect when we bring Viney back to start in the middle with Petracca and Oliver. It's all good and well to blame the midfielders but selection plays a large part of it. Also the dump kicking doesn't just happen under pressure, it happens when we have a mark/free kick between the arcs and have time to make a decision. We should be looking for the switch but instead just go long and high, so easy to defend against it is infuriating.