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Not sure I agree with all of this, OD. If Carlton were still the organisation that you suggest they would have sought a player to replace Fevola three years ago. They didn't. They haven't and they won't get Cloke either.

Olyphant's even better in Justified.

So much dead wood. Spencer showed something today (he's showed something well before Jamar ever showed anything), while even though Magner is slow and lacks decent disposal, at least he plays for the jumper. More than could be said for quite a few others. Agree with the rest however. I'd add question marks next to Bartram, Petterd, Morton and Sylvia. The latter three I'd seek a trade and see what we can get.

Agree on comments about Jordie's kicking. Love his endeavour, but his kicking is barely VFL standard. Bartram as well. Meanwhile, McDonald's lucky he's turned into a really promising young defender, because his kicking is atrocious.

Is Nicholson or McKenzie the worst kick in our side? Then there's Bartram...hmm. All we've done over the past few years (besides high draft picks and the occasional win - ie Tom McDonald) is recruit C graders who are not up to AFL footy. Meanwhile, some of the "chases" in this last quarter have been country league standard. [censored] pathetic.

Possibly the worst commentary display I can remember. An embarrassing bunch. Bit like our footy team.

Good boy, Jeremy. Liked how Tappy stood up for him and then stood over the Brisbane bloke.

What an appropriate name Dunn has.

Also calls Trengove Trengrove. Jesus he's an infuriating spazadonis.

I think the game plan is being taken out of context a little bit here though. Unless there is a better option in the corridor a team should always kick down the lines. You get killed on the corridor turn overs these days. Yes, we're getting killed anyway, but I'd much prefer to instil a thoughtful and disciplined set of team rules. We simply don't have any class in the midfield. The most important position on the ground. We need leg speed there and good decision makers with good skills. Blah, blah, blah. We know it all.

Sellar loves those up and unders.

Except Howe makes simple horrendous decisions a lot of the time. His kick into the middle was daft to say the least.

Love Magner's attitude, but very ordinary footballer.

They can't afford to win against Brisbane, because we'll win games in Melbourne, even without Mitch.

I cannot recall a more obvious display of tanking since against Richmond. Not at all subtle.

I Tweeted Emma Q this a few weeks back. All she could proffer was his knee injury. An overpaid log though, as is Warnock. The latter had some good tapouts tonight, but very ordinary as a footballer.

If Patton knows there's money and can see a way of returning home to a solid club (yes, we'll have to make a climb up the ladder), it's just a matter of a key position player exchange and potentially a first round pick. Whoever fails to hold down a KP spot come Round 22 next year would be on the table. I'm thinking it could be one of our copious KPDs. If a player wants to leave and refuse to sign a contract, there's not much an AFL club can do. It couldn't happen to a grubbier bunch.

Boak's another Sylvia. Got potential, has delivered a couple of times, but for a player his age doesn't impact games regularly enough. No thanks. Go one of the kids. Really, Cloke and say a player of Sewell's calibre would be the only players I'd target for season 2013.

I wouldn't go for Cameron as I've said. I'd go Patton. And if we just sit back and say it's all too hard, we'll never get anywhere. I agree we have to be fastidious about the players we target, but once we set our sights on someone, we should go at them hammer and tong. This would include getting in the ear of Patton's manager.

If the club has that attitude we'll never get another star again.

Howe is NOT a great kick. I'd prefer to watch Rivers and Garland take a set shot that Howe.

Cameron's a beautiful kick, but so is Watts. But whopper is lightening fast and taller than Cameron. Even though he had an ordinary game, Patton has the build and kicking style to be a gun. I'd take him ahead of Cameron, on size alone.

A left-footed forward who takes ages with his set shots. Anyone think Sheedy had a hand in giving him the number 18?

A beautiful kick this kid. I think I prefer Patton's kicking style though.

Gysberts will be our best midfielder. Ridiculous.