Adam The God

I'd like to see it too, but I'd rather we started rolling him through the midfield first.

He did some nice things, but was completely lost in the zone more than once. I thought he'd be dropped this week, but I'm glad they're persisting. Only one way to learn your way through a zone. It's to play in it more often. It's not like small forwards at Casey are really pushing their case strongly.

I very rarely listen to footy analysis outside of the Demonland podders. This is why. Stop doing it to yourself, Binners! 🤣

Yeah, I don't blame the defenders necessarily. I blame the mids and the half forwards frankly. I'm on record saying I felt our forward mix was off. What we gave to score, meant we almost gave up too many scores the other way. May really struggled, but the rest of the defenders held up their end of the bargain and I expect May to be better this week. If it's Round 20 or 21 or even better, a final, are we allowing those transition goals? Probably not and I would certainly hope not. I'd add Hipwood's goal late in the 3rd on the boundary too. Left footer remember. There was definitely some brilliant goal kicking on display.

But the majority of their back half chains in the third for example (4 of 5 goals from defensive half chains) seemed to start from stationary plays. So the press doesn't come into effect. The zone sits there, but there's no press. When Brisbane would gain possession in the back half, it seemed they were able to find a short option that the zone would then muzzle. The kicker or would switch back again, and Brisbane players would find themselves in metres and metres of space on the opposite wing. They'd then move the ball along the wing without us getting anywhere near one of their players and certainly nowhere near the ball, and kick goals. Coast to coast. It happened more than once. We rarely give up in a coast to coast goal in a 10 game stretch these days, let alone 2 or 3 in the same quarter. I'd be staggered if Chaplin and co were happy with our zone defence and our work rate in defensive transition for the majority of the second and third quarters.

As it turned halfway through the first. I think we were really on top for the first 15-20 minutes of the first and for 5-10 minutes of the 3rd and all of the 4th. I agree we're not there yet with our collective ability to cover the ground yet. I don't expect this until Round 20ish (ie the Richmond game). And that's quite possible that the short kicking game had to be abandoned by the Lions as they tired. It's not the short chipping game that's beaten us in the past though IMO. That's usually up one wing or through the corridor without switching. And our zone should protect against the switch, because it did on the first kick, but when the ball returned to the opposite side of the field, it was too easy for Brisbane to transition the ball without us touching an opponent. To me that's a work rate thing, but we'll agree to disagree I guess.

And DB has absolutely no agenda here at all...

We also didn't transition effectively and reset our zone backwards and forwards from either wing. We transitioned once and all it took was another switch back to the original spot to then have players out everywhere on the original side. That's a focus and work rate thing from us. And good work rate and synergy from them. At the end of the day, we need to play 4 quarters and we managed a half (if I'm being kind) against Brisbane. You can rarely get away with that against the very top sides. It's just we happened to spank them when we were on top and made the most of our chances.

Two of those guys are playing on the inside, while one guy is swanning around like Fabio on a wing by himself. Completely bad faith comparison... The better comparison would be pur wingers, Langdon (73% DE) and Hunter (66.7% DE). The AFL ap says Smith's DE in 2023 is 66.4%, so not sure where you got yours from, but we signed Hunter for cheap and he's playing a solid role. Have no idea why we'd want another winger. If he came for free, sure, but he won't.

Thanks mate. So your take on this stuff with Reid is West Coast posturing or are they targeting multiple top 10 picks?

The FD clearly don't trust Tomlinson on really big KPFs and that's fair, I reckon, based on his form earlier in the year. His best game was against Collingwood, who really only had Cox. I reckon we would have been worried about Hipwood or Daniher with Tomlinson. Tomlinson might be an okay match up for Fogarty, but even he might be too strong. My gut is they're going to try and play Petty again this week and rest him against Richmond. Time will tell.

@Pennant St Dee, I asked you earlier in this thread mate, whether there's any chance Curtin could get through to our pick (say West Coast go with Reid) and if he did, would we take Curtin. What are your thoughts currently? Please and thank you. 🙏

Agreed. But if we finished 2nd, we'd be playing Port or Brisbane at the MCG. Probably Port. I can't see Brisbane finishing top 2 now, but I've been wrong before.

The absolute ideal scenario is us hosting Port or Brisbane at the MCG in a QF. But I concede this is very unlikely, it could happen though and that's a better outcome than Collingwood in a QF. We can win the flag from 4th, 3rd or 2nd.

If JJ goes, it'll be because he wants to. He's an FA, so the mistake wouldn't be ours. There are only so many players that can fit into 22/23.

The AFL want it to work up there, so there'll keep getting concessions until they are...

Geelong is a marginal seat though. It's become effectively a bipartisan pork barrel.

He injured himself the previous week during a contest against St Kilda. He looked very sore after it.

With the austerity mindset from governments at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if any headway made previously is now redundant. Unless it's solely public infrastructure, I can't imagine they'll be able to sell it to their constituents.

And instead of Bowey, replace him with Petty.

It also is randomly shown well before SG has finished.

I think we can win it from 4th. Particularly, if we play Collingwood in the QF.

I hate Geelong too. Half my family is Geelong, the other half Melbourne. That would be dreadful, but I expect Geelong to drop at least 2 more, possibly 3, which they can't really afford.

Lol, it wasn't that long ago that some on here were saying 2023 would be a super draft and a bunch of us were saying every year is allegedly a super draft until it isn't. But if JT doesn't rate the crop, we'll trade the picks for a ready made. We win either way. So it'll be fascinating to see which way we go.

Indeed, but do you think Brisbane will go 6-0 or 5-1 from here? They could well fall in a hole too after their capitulation the other night. They've still got Collingwood, Geelong, the Q-Clash and Adelaide.