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But he’s really good friends with the players.

The difference is, IMO, Jefferson has at least shown moments where I think “maybe, just maybe” there’s something. Tholstrup (once again, IMO) hasn’t even shown that.

@john delosa I think we need some more ‘thumbs down’ in this thread!

Ollie, I have not seen one sign in all your posts that you are able of critically analysing the club. You defend it more viscously and consistently than any Collingwood or Carlton or whoever supporter does. You are not a supporter at all, in fact you may have Stockholm syndrome. Please seek help.

Beyond embarrassing, but glad to see the real MFC showed up tonight.

Hogan departs Melbourne “While we are disappointed to lose the high-quality player that Jesse is, we respect this decision and his request for a trade,” Mahoney said. “Jesse has been through some significant personal trauma in the past 18 months, and he has close ties to family members, including his mother, brother and sister, back in Western Australia. “As a club, we understand that being closer to family in Perth is Jesse’s priority, and we appreciate the positive impact this can have on his wellbeing.” Since debuting against Gold Coast in round 1, 2015, the forward has played 71 matches, including 20 this past season.

You don’t think their trade and free agency intentions back what they say ‘publicly’?

There's no point in raising this fallacy or pointing out this inconsistency because it's largely the same people who drove home the notion that the acquisition of Houston would deliver us a flag and we needed players for the now - not draft picks, but now speak of the goal-posts being rightfully moved during what is a 'development' year. Honestly, the desire from the FD to actively recruit Houston speaks volumes of where they assessed this list was at.

This is a major hurdle and contributory factor, IMO. For whatever reason, we haven't drafted elite users and seemingly haven't placed a significant emphasis on this at the draft table (although Laurie was billed as one of the best kicks in his draft year, from memory - but he seemingly hasn't developed and his future likely isn't with us). Arguably, it's because as a football club we've built a game around contested possession, stoppage power and territory but the contemporary game has seemingly moved on from this being the primary focus of the current game. I can see XL being the most likely of the current crop to develop into this category, and potentially Langford, but we need to address because it is becoming a huge issue for us.

I'm on the fence about whether it happened or not, personally. Though I think it's far more likely to come down to how desperate we are to regenerate the list, as opposed to receiving a crazy offer. I think the trade and free agency period will be very interesting for us and probably dictate our position over the next few years, against the backdrop of the impending Tassie concessions. You'd think that with some of the reported interests we have in some other players in the league, something has to give if we're looking to seriously move our list.

Reading the bulk of this clearly indicates why NAPLAN results show that one in three children are not proficient in literacy...

Laugh reacting to this, not your actual post.

There is ZERO selection integrity. You can throw Laurie into the mix too (no, I don't think his future is at the MFC either), with the juxtaposition of Petty in the ones. I mentioned this the other day and was met with the usual laugh reacts and vomit reactions from the regulars. How ANYONE can argue there is selection integrity, is beyond me.

I actually agree partially with what you've said, it's definitely a rock and hard place and regarding the supporter base, a response was never going to please everyone. But were the results this year really that unexpected against the previous three seasons? I'm not really sure that they were/are.

Mate, seriously are you incapable of critically judging the club on anything? All you seem to do is provide excuse after excuse for continued poor performance and often just end up providing a strawman argument as to why 'criticism' is boring. There is a distinguished difference between strategically pivoting and simply using a goal-shift bias to shift goals when they become too challenging - but goals shouldn't be shifted on the run purely because the current output isn't aligning with the desired end result. The goal set by the club, at least via external messaging, was that we had the set goal of returning to finals. That is an explicit statement, once again, at least based on external messaging. At the end of the day, whether there were extraneous results that impacted that (I'd argue that there haven't really been measurable extraneous circumstances which have), don't change whether something is a failure or not; all it does is provide a potential explanation, or causative reason on why that failure occurred. But the continued focus on excuses for these failures since 2021 by many on here, only continues to promote blame avoidance. The Club needs to take responsibility for these results, whether they are deemed failures, or mistakes, or even a combination of both. If we continue down the path of defensive routines, this will only continue to protect individuals within the club, or the club as an entity itself, from any threat to their self-image (essentially, as a form of self-protection). Denial, distortion and distraction are constantly practiced on this very forum by many who do not want to acknowledge the poor results post 2021. The other factor which I would raise, is this goal was so unrealistic, than to even commit to it, indicates an embarrassing lack of root cause analysis and foresight by the FD and Administration, ineffective problem solving and honestly a lack of transparency and trust between the club and member base. I don't think you can make an argument that this was a stretch goal; rather it likely indicates a mixture of over optimism, a fear of underachievement, and some wider cultural and organisational factors that have continued to drive this club out of finals contention.

Exactly, and this is one of the irreconcilable issues for us thus far. The MFC stated that this was their intention and goal, as a result, they have set themselves up (based on current results), as failing that goal.

Now, I'm viewing this as is - I haven't seen an expanded segment so am relying on this as the full context. But Mitch Cleary is absolutely one of the more reputable news breakers out there and I'd give some weight to this. Although, it comes across far more as an opinion, cf. a statement of fact - at least regarding the context given in the clip.

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lol

Xerri getting three weeks for an incident that was graded as careless, yet Robertson gets two weeks which will go down to one with an early plea. Absolutely broken system with zero credibility. Deven Robertson Report

Throw in Allan La Fontaine down forward and Barassi as coach for good measure.

I'd also add into that, the inability to regularly and reliably defend on turn-over / counter-attack, particularly against quick ball movement via the centre corridor.

Two more years 👏 Two more years 👏

Looks like there’s some belief there today.