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Please. My comment has nothing to do with the poster on this forum, but this reaction from people, that he somehow is under obligation to inform someone of his contractual status and intention is puerile.

Yes, he didn’t want to sign for four years. My understanding, as @Jaded No More has said, is that it was reduced at his request.

We initially tabled a four year offer.

We’re all shaped by our own experiences, perspectives, morals and ethics. I don’t think lying is entirely ‘good’ or ‘bad’, it’s entirely contextual and like many things in life, I don’t think you can merely assign a binary answer to it. There’s also a difference between a lie, and a mistruth, to be a pedant. No, I explicitly don’t think an employee has any obligation to state their intentions to someone, other than their manager and at a certain point, their club of employment and a subsequent new club. Live in the real world. Props to you if you’ve never ‘lied’ to an employer. I don’t think there’s anything surprisingly or ‘wrong’ about what’s unfolded and I’m not even disputing what he’s apparently said to people. But given the conventions of the AFL system, how player movement works, and the nature of keeping a player that’s OOC and isn’t signing in the context of the AFL, and you still thought he’d likely sign… well, yeah, I would call you naive.

Yeah, just like there was no outrage when Houston came out and said he’d be playing at Port. At that point it looked like it he was destined for us and posters on here found that statement hilarious. Swings and roundabouts.

The collective naivety on this site is super cute. ☺️ I have no issue with the messaging from the Judd camp, and other area’s, being that re would re-sign on two years. But the faux moral outrage that he ‘lied’ to a supporter is bizarre.

Spot on, clearly there’s more to it than that. It potentially could be an enabling reason, but it’s not causative.

Assuming this is the result of covert effects from the media too 😂

‘The Brand’ does Europe.

FWIW, I don't think Petracca will be at Melbourne next year, but had missed Twomey also reporting this (I'm obviously aware there's a general consensus that GC are in the frame though). Twomey's comments on Oliver were interesting too, although maybe not all together surprising.

Rucci has a shocking track record, up there with McLure. Also seems like SEN have the work experience kid working on some stuff, given they've listed Oliver as 'leaving': Club-by-club trade guide: Targets, who's moving and draft hand

Damn, JD back at it again with the 'vomit' reacts. 🤮

Gold Coast reportedly looking the likely club if he leaves, but I agree that I'd be asking the question.

'Gary Lyon' 'Russell Robinson'

At the conclusion of the 2019 season, when Dangerfield was a 29 year old, he still had a further 81 goals than Petracca does at the same age. In fact, his goal accuracy slightly increases to 57.17% (Goals 283 - Behinds 212), so I'm not really certain you're making the point you think you are. But you're right, it is handy to quote statistics in context.

Thanks buddy, do you have time to give me a few classes?

On premise I agree with you, but I don't think the overwhelming pattern of performance and output demonstrates that Petracca can consistently and reliably perform in such a manner, at least in terms of scoring returns. He's had one five goal game (2025) and four, four goal games (2017, 2020, 2023 x 2) but then the drop between 1 - 2 goal games is pretty significant (even three goal returns are low for Tracc). Best returns for goals are 2021 when he had a career best haul of 29, then 2023 when he netted another 28 (28.34 return). To be fair, it's a bit of a apples and oranges comparison, given Dangerfield has spent more time as a forward; so we're comparing current output against a potential future output - so it's really all speculative. I agree with the comparison between the two players, there's definitely some similarities, especially around their general disposal efficiency too; but where they diverge is the forward craft and scoring accuracy. Dangerfield goes at 56.24%, where as is Petracca 51.79%. I'd note that although these on a surface level don't appear to dissimilar, you need to account for Dangerfield having a further 163 career goals than Petracca.

Not sure I agree with the bolded component, but the other points are extremely valid. I think this has been coming for a few seasons now, it shouldn't be too surprising. Sadly, I would've preferred that he chose to retire and ended his career with us, but I'm not begrudging of his desire to play on at all. The benefit for us is that should allow Petty to move back to where he is suited, though I'm hoping that our three year failed 'experiment' hasn't stifled his development as a backman.

TYFYS - for the most part, I stand with May.

Agreed, very good point. Not sure he's really any sort of an upgrade on CP5 either. Personally would be much happier seeing CP5 out, Windhager in (if I was choosing a replacement mid).

Now that is interesting, suggests (sadly but not surprisingly) that Windhager is dead in the water. Would think Collingwood is his preference, hard to see him going to Essendon or Melbourne given the potential for us both being bottom four next year.

Have heard this, sounds like a done deal (in terms of him not being at the club next year being a certainty).