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Not denying that. Just the pettiness of her bringing it up.

She can't miss an opportunity to throw in an irrelevant remark about tanking.:

Some of us maybe, but others would be pointing out how depleted WCE were and how disgraceful it was to lose to a crippled team.

A commonly stated opinion. But does any team that finishes 8th "deserve" to play finals? Unless the structure of the finals changes, the answer must be that they do deserve to play almost by definition. And if so, why not us? All teams that come 8th must have stuffed up somewhere along the line.

I can't understand the rules of farnarkling, but then again, recently I have found the umpires and AFL don't seem to understand the rules of AFL either.

I doubt a farnarkling player would be good at AFL.

I'd add to this the 2 teams which had a bye when they didn't need one and didn't get one when they did need it. With these 'frenzies' it must be important to get a week off. We and EFC did not. Both have gone down the tube recently.

This attitude is a bit like congratulating the Black Knight for not making excuses as his limbs are lopped off. Of course there is always a danger of hiding behind excuses but it is equally foolish to ignore facts which may be valid reasons contributing to poor performance. I suspect if the team bus was hit by a meteorite there'd be some saying excuses excuses. And I don't care if supporters want to comfort themselves by making 'excuses'. We have negligible influence and need to maintain our sanity. Players and coaches are another matter of course.

It seems more likely to me that in wet & windy weather our players go into their shell, possibly because it's so easy to mishandle the ball and for a turnover to result. So they go for kick down the line. But why us and not other teams so much?

Can we bet on the colour of their boots as well? World's gone mad.

Agree. Also recall that we were making up the numbers in the finals in 2018 and still managed to remove 2 other teams who were not thought to be just making up the numbers. Not that I have any confidence of that happening again.

I can't see that 'we should win with ease' when our opponents were compettive against Richmond. It's almost as if people want to magnify the significance of losing tonight as much as possible so as to be as miserable as possible when we lose. I'd have thought we endure enough misery without boosting it.

Sorry, while I think that Gil theory is rubbish, it doesn't hold a candle to a lot of the nonsense that floats around on Facebook. And is a lot less dangerous.

Re 'that' goal, this from the Fox afl site: This is where the system is limited; from one angle, the ball was just past the goalpost. From the other side, it was not. The nature of the cameras in this situation, and the way lenses can warp the position of the ball, mean it’s impossible to tell which angle was right. If that is the case, they should junk the system until they get it right. As I've argued elsewhere, leave it to the umpire. Umps make mistakes all the time which affect the result of a close game, why are goal umpires' decisions treated differently? And as we know all too well, the delay of a decision on a mark on the line vs a point can rob a team of it's momentum to get the ball to the scoring end and win a close match.

Damn. For a while they were on track to win by almost a 186 equivalent

A bit circular - why would a good club need to make excuses or even look for reasons for being poor? I think the bolded comment is far more the reason for our erratic performance than 'a poor culture going back 50 years'. I doubt if culture in footy teams could transmit unchanged down so many generations of players and admins anyway.

The trouble is the kitchen is destroying resonable discourse and encouraging lunatic theories and non-facts. I stay out of it (other than here) and heartily wish it would burn down.

I'd rather be looking for reasons why 22 blokes turned up half asleep rather than just saying 'excuses, excuses' and putting the boot in. But by way of excuses (or reasons why) perhaps leaving by bus and plane (and I assume another bus) by 7am to play at 4:40pm was worse than the travel done by Port. And then Port are a far better side, so more likely to win regardless of travel factors, whereas in our case it could be the straw that broke the camel's back).

It would be ironic if Richmond are deprived of a 2020 flag because the GF is cancelled due to a 'hot-spot' developing at their camp.

I used to do that, but they found a way of preventing you doing it.

AFL LIve? A 7 inch screen is my idea of torture. I get enough of that watching us play.

Well for those of us in NSW and ACT it is a small compensation for getting the free to air slots filled with Sydney & GWS games all the season, leaving few slots for other games, thus reducing the chances of a MFC match to almost 0. I just wish the AFL would produce an AFL-only service. I'm only interested in AFL not 500 other sports. I don't want to spend a lot on Fox or Kayo for stuff I have no interest in.

When & where do you renew it D_J? After it expires? (I assume you mean renewing the 3 months on the Kayo account, not somehow renewing through beteasy?

Sorry to repeat. Is there such an option? If so, where do you select it?

Not only unaware of this option, but can't see where you select it. Advice please Binman.