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Everything posted by sue
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I detected a whiff of irony in that short list.
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copy has arrived. Looks good.
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Whenever they say "you heard the umpire" I always ask "why the bloody hell can't we hear them all the time instead of you cretins?"
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But it remains a mystery why he can't do that for set shots.
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This analysis overlooks the 'assist' of a forward player #1 doing a good kick to another forward who marks inside 50 who then misses the goal. Hardly the fault of player #1.
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Who writes these rules? When does a player ever 'elect to incorrectly dispose of the ball'? Perhaps when they deliberately throw it, but a fist missing an attempt to handpass is hardly 'electing'. But what about a player who had prior opportunity who is then tackled and genuinely ATTEMPTS to kick the ball but misses it. No free kick according to that. Any guide to the perplexed?
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Why isn't there an option on here to give multiple likes to a post?
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I'm driven crazy by commentators giving a lecture on what players need to do, either during the play and then again immediately afterwards as if that somehow proves the wisdom of the original comment. But why do I say 'original' - usually the comment isn't original at all. It's stating the bleeding obvious. As if they are lecturing to 6 year olds or people who have never seen AFL before.
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Because we hadn’t lost to the giants yet
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Players stand in a random spot and then the ump calls “stand”. Or they have to guess where outside the protected zone is. More distances for the umps to ‘measure’ accurately.
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Is that an euphonium?
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The umpires don’t seem to have read the rules. Eg. push in the back just before the kick is given as free downfield in front of the goals
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But isn't it just as likely that he was trying to ensure it did not cross the line as he prepared to kick it. Anyway, whatever our memories of a golden age when the AFL rules were well written (like all golden ages, there's no such age I expect), the rules as currently written are silent on the question. And if anything the simplest interpretation of them as written is that the boot can be in contact with the ball. I can't see how an umpire lacking a high-speed camera could ever judge exactly when a ball leaves a boot, let alone doing that while noting the position of the ball. By high-speed I mean something better than the AFL s currently using. Even with a decent camera, the camera would have to be near boot level - unlikely. It is so difficult to judge that they'd be better to make the rule state that as long as contact with the ball is made before the ball crosses the line, then it is a goal.
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Several people have posted this, but I don't see how this interpretation was even possible before high speed video was available. As I posted earlier, the rules are silent on this matter since they don't define what a kick is (beyond being below the knee). There is nothing there about a kick being complete when the ball leaves the boot. Nor do the rules say anything about a kick having to be complete before the ball passes the goal line.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-01/is-west-coasts-biggest-strength-masking-bigger-weaknesses/100255464
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It would seem the Essendon coach doesn't subscribe to the umpiring plot theory.
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Well on my reading there is nothing to say that the ball has to leave the boot before it passes the outside of the line. The definition of a kick is simply contact below the knee, nothing about a kick requires the ball to leave the boot. So I think it is clear that is was a goal, though the frame rate of the AFL's cameras is far too low to be really sure. I note that it is clear that if another player is touching the ball as it is kicked, it is not a goal. I didn't spot anything in the rules about video reviews checking on goals etc. But it seems to be a 'rule' that the umpire is only overridden if the video review is definitive. How does a professional organization not include that in its 2021 laws of the game?
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Your last statment is definitely true. But where in the rules does it say that? The definition of a kick says nothing nor does what makes a goal a point as far as I can see? Rules are hidden by the AFL as far as possible. https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/document/2021/03/22/821e4724-d9f4-48b5-8210-aba038553024/2021-Laws-of-the-Game-WEB.pdf
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You might have to change your geolocation to Melbourne. There are browser add ons todo that. and create a free account.
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Yeah, you might be hit with an unaffordable fine.
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I see they now pay frees for contact below the bum.
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Rule of the week/game/quarter/whatever.
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I love the implication that our players go downhill during the ski season. (pun not intended, just emerged). Either the poster thinks our players bugger off to the ski fields, or they vastly over-estimate the importance of our supporters on the players' performance.
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Actually I expect no one here knows if Sam uses social media or not.(?) Since clubs probably advise players to avoid or restrict it to preserve their sanity, I wouldn't be surprised that as a group of youngish people, many may not use it compared to their non-AFL playing cohort.
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I'm not trying to bash him. But I do think many of us were hoping he'd be something special. Call that a messiah or whatever you like.