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Wow. You would decide Policy using a single year’s data. Worthy of the AFL.

Some are assuming that what Goodwin says in public is the same as what he says to Jones in private and that Jones is not aware of the reason for the difference.

I don't understand why umpires tell the players the rules at all. (I'm OK with them explaining decisions - that's different.) As one example amongst many, do players really need to be told to stay on line when kicking after the siren? (not that I heard Max being so advised - did anyone?). However when the question is a matter of distance it does make more sense to advise a player they are getting too close. Especially since umpires have varying ideas of what 5, 10 and 15 metres is depending on phase of the moon and other imponderables.

Looks like I'll have to call you young dee now I know you are 2 years younger than me. I was standing at the pocket at the other end - maybe why I've subsequently been at the other end of the pessimism/optimism scale to you. (Not really but it seemed a good line...)

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I wonder what other old members who saw the 64 GF think of this win compared to that? This may be a bit controversial, but I felt in some ways last night was better. In those bygone days we sort of expected to win premierships (apologies to you young whippersnappers). It was great of course with a nail biting finish but ho hum, yet another flag. But all these subsequent years of pain (and 186 and Geelong in general) made last night something special. Now to start getting that ho hum feeling back again.

Should be fined at least

Yes. But he pretended it did

I think TRIGON was referring to Covid travel restrictions. He's not a movie star so he may not be able to travel.

Surely if they act they have had to do it before now given Melbourne has to name a side tonight. The AFL cannot assume that a player on the list will not be selected - who knows - we might want to rest Gawn of whatever (I'm not suggesitng it, just that the AFL cannot dismiss the possibilty). Furthermore if they banned him now, where is his right of appeal before we select a team? So maybe they are waiting to see if he is not listed in the team or even as an emergency. Then it would be 'fair' to begin proceedings in time for next week.

Who is they?

Since when did Fox start putting ads up at ball ins They forget to remove them when the play starts too often and with their overuse of closeups it blocks my view of when the players last shaved

The Like button is not enough. I couldn't agree more.

Are there any behind @old dee? (just kidding)

Not going for the ball at all. How he gets away with it is beyond comprehension

I thought the question should have been did he start to mark it before it crossed the line. Couldn’t tell from the video shown. They didn’t appear to consider that

You're probably right. However, the difference is that the 'not 15' is necessary to follow long established rules of the game.

I think stand is the worst of the ‘need to hear’ instructions and god help us in a grand final with a crowd. Where the player on the mark can stand is yet another thing which requires the ump to be running about with a measuring tape. Wont make it much worse if they add to that uncertainty by allowing the man on the mark to move 2 metres or whatever rather than looking like a windmill in a light breeze. The umps give a lot of instructions which are unnecessary and don’t have to be heard. Eg don’t hold in the ruck. (Will they soon be saying ‘don’t throw it’ or ‘don’t tackle below the neck’ ). Why do the players need to be continually told the rules. Eg stay on your line when kicking after the siren.

I agree the rules are a problem, but surely getting the distance a ball has travelled when a player marks a ball even roughly right says something else is wrong. Of course there will be some errors since the umpires are not running around with lasers, but so often the error is enormous and the call seems to depend on context, both location on the ground and the state of the game.

I presume you didn't have any inside information on TMac's state and certainly not more than the club staff, so you were more or less guessing. Nevertheless you got it right this time, but I wouldn't be polishing my 'realist' medals based on that. None of us have any idea if sitting in the plane or missing his own comfy bed played any part in aggravating the injury. Maybe he'd have missed all the benefits of being with the team that Binman mentioned for nothing if they had left him behind while gaining no or little recovery benefit. Who knows. Hopefully he'll be back and rested for the rest of the season.

In response to those saying we should be free to say what we like and too bad if some people will be offended, surely it depends on the nature of the statement and who it is directed at. IMO there is a clear line - make nasty statements about a person for things over which they have no control (like the race they were born with) and you have clearly crossed the line.

I completely disagree. Your implicit defintition of politics is far too restrictive. It's more than political parties and the current politicians. Real politics (not manouevering for votes) is about the human condition and how to better it. Just because some right winger thinks anti-rascism is a leftist plot, doesn't make it a non-political issue. It says more about that person.

There are 2 reasons why they get so much hype. The number of Bomber supporters and the alliteration. We need the Diaper Demons.

But that is exactly is what politics should be about. I have no problem saying this is a political issue.

Possibly not. But I think the scenario Engorged painted would have been in the mind of every MFC player regardless.