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Hmm. Maybe it's me that needs to get the calculator out then.

Who's that in 10th? Some dude has his head in the way.

*annuls SaberFang's vote* (Not really, but only because the software won't let me )

I've closed the poll now so you cheating buggers can't add/change your votes when the result is pretty close to over. Enjoy! :D

Tyson won't win guys, he's way too far behind. Get your calculators out.

Doesn't matter whether he was on his Pat Malone or not in context of the B&F.

On the maths, suggesting that Tyson will win is a bit like when you've gotta kick 6 goals to none in the last quarter to win, when you've only kicked 4 in the whole game up to that point. It might happen, but it probably won't.

Same.

Yep, two horse race from here I reckon. Dom needs an average of 10 points more than Jones/Viney in the last 4 rounds, currently he has averaged 2 points less each round. I can't see a 12 point turnaround when the average score of the leaders has been about 15 - he'll close the gap as he finished the year strongly, but not by much. Viney or Jones it is.

Fair enough. Shame, but probably not a great shock at this point in his career. Until Terlich I had never seen a player have a line drawn through his name at selection two years before his contract was up, but there you have it.

I didn't see the Casey game, but the general gist reminds me of Hogan's game against Carlton - clearly a dominant force, but in the wash-up was excessively penalised by people due to the missed shots at goal, as if those undid all the rest of his play. I know stats aren't everything, but I find it difficult to believe Terlich wasn't amongst the 6 most influential players on the day with those kind of numbers.

How about Terlich - 24 possessions, 15 marks if you don't mind, 8 i50s, 4 tackles, 2 goals 3 behinds, not in the top 6 players.

Going out on a limb and suggesting he won't be on our list next year...

I see a question mark in there but I don't see a question. Surely that's not an actual question?

It's an Australian passtime to bag out the states we don't live in, I've just learned to accept/ignore it. Tassie is always the butt of everyone's jokes and quite a few misnomers, for example people thinks it rains a lot in Hobart - nup, average annual rainfall is less than any other capital except Adelaide. It rains like a bastard on the West Coast, but the Eastern edge of the state is all beaches and sunshine. The other one that made me LOL was people commenting on how stupid it was to play footy in Hobart in the middle of winter, as if the 2 degrees difference between Hobart and Melbourne made a huge difference, and that nobody had ever frozen their azzes off at the MCG in July.

I wondered the same thing; what that works out to as an hourly rate. $5k by 22 weeks is $227 a week. What's the time commitment?

If both came in, I wonder who'd go out? All the marginal MFC players - namely Smith and King, were already playing in the dev league. Of the Casey players (excluding 23rd man Ferreira), McInernie is the only fringe senior, having played 4/12 (seniors/dev league) games, but he is a ruckman so may need to play for team balance. Munro and Morris have played 17/2 and 15/2 respectively, while Scott, Smith, Keilty and Hutchins have not set foot in the dev league this season and won't now. I admit I know absolutely nothing about the Casey players, but someone is going to be stiff, as all have contributed to the season. It may also be that the MFC are conservative on JKH and put him on ice for the season. Otherwise, the game isn't for another two weeks, so he's got plenty of recovery time. Chances of Terlich being rubbed out?

I've often wondered what would happen if you just stuck another midfielder in the circle and didn't contest the ruck at all.

Thanks WJ. You'd hope the club would be having a look - when was the last time our club took a player from its own VFL side? Shane Valenti and Stefan Martin came from that avenue but I can't think of anyone more recent than that.

Mo, you said this: You've got from "draft or trade in someone...", then went on to list people who are going to be hard to get because they'll have no incentive to come here. So what if there are untried ruckman out there with more upside than Spencer if they're not available to play for the Melbourne Football Club and are unlikely to come here.

Yes, they're out there, but are they available to us? If they're not players we are likely to able to trade in, then there's no point discussing them. Mitch King is a crazy example, he's already on our list and clearly isn't a viable backup to Max yet. You may have noticed, he and Spencer are *already* both on the list. Gawn's season this year will have been a big fat red flag for any ruckman with aspirations to become a senior AFL ruckman, which is surely all of them. Nobody in favour of giving Spencer the flick has given a viable alternative yet for mine.

I have to admit I'd never heard of him until following the Casey feed yesterday. Pretty interesting selection in a final with an already pretty tall Casey side - must have shown something. Listed as 203cm and 100kg so he's probably physically ready. Any idea why he'd been playing in the dev league for the bulk of the season?

"Morrish Medal Preview" WJ?

What would their incentive be to come?

You say that is if it's easy.