Lord Travis

He's a jet and I expect him to be picked by another club before us. If he slid to us then he'd be a great pickup. Him and Kozzie would cause nightmares up forward and both can take stints in the midfield for extra damage.

A Sanders and O'Sullivan double would be the ideal result IMO.

Yes. he and club have nominated. Will very likely become a Demon either by a late draft pick or the rookie draft. The only way he doesn't now is if a club bids on him very high so we choose/can't match it, which appears unlikely.

The draft picks don't have an end point - they are infinite as long as clubs have list spots to fill and are not choosing to pass. As mentioned by RalphiusMaximus however, once you hit a certain point of the draft each pick has 0 points assigned value. So if a club bid on him at pick 88, we can just match the bid and take him if we have a list spot available. The kicker though is having a list spot available to actually draft him, and that may be why delisted Turner.

He's a Gold Coast academy draftee and was always expected to be drafted top 10. GC have 3 academy prospects (Walter, Read, Rogers) set to be taken I the first round. Read is not an option for us, though we'll likely bid on him if he available.

Looks like Marc Murphy to me. Quick neat player, but lacks the power of top line midfielders.

He's from country Victoria and is a Geelong supporter. Will likely be down at the cattery in a few years time and handed the keys to the city.

Reid is from country Victoria and supports Geelong... Guess who will be a Cat in a few years!

Clayton Oliver no good then? How about two time brownlow medalist Lachie Neale? Or brownlow medalist Cripps? Versatility is nice to have, but if you're a gun midfielder then why would you ever play any other position. Talk about impact, Sanders is the best performed midfielder in this 2023 draft class. He won the Larke medal for best player in the national championships. He's a ball winner, he's got burst of pace, classy agile mover, good kicking skills, strong overhead, hits the scoreboard, leadership qualities. There's no reason why he won't make it as a good AFL midfielder. He's probably the safest bet in this whole draft class and looks to me like hell carve out a Joel Selwood type career. If JT and the recruiters decide Leake is our guy, then we'll all support him and hope he's a star. At this point in time, he's a lesser player than Sanders and hasn't shown much as a midfielder yet. Pick 6 is a lot to spend on a flanker sized intercept defender when there's potentially a superb midfielder on offer.

This thread is about Kynan Brown not Ben Brown.

Essentially means West Coast are taking pick 1 to draft. Norths offer is better than ours, and ours is already overs IMO. We're better off taking what we have to draft. A shame as Reid looks to be a potential game breaking star of the future, but it would be unwise to over commit for one player. Let's say we wind up with Sanders at 6, Windsor at 11, Brown at 42, and our future first is round pick 15 as an example. If we use the moneyball math idea, Reid is a 10/10 Sanders is 9/10 Windsor is 7/10 Brown is 4/10 Future first is 6/10. 26 beats 10, but it's just about what's better for the list at that point in time. If it was just 6 and 11 I'd consider it. To add future firsts and other picks tips it too far the other way. If West Coast won't accept 2+15+17, then it's extremely unlikely they will accept 6+11+42+future first. And I hope they don't. it's overs. Time to move on from pick 1/Reid.

On viewing I thought he played like a shorter Lever, so I'm baffled by the Fyfe, Hird, Bailey and other comparisons... If JT thinks he can become an elite midfielder, then I'm all for it. That's what we need. Would be a huge call to take him ahead of Sanders, Watson or Curtin if available.

This coaching change is the biggest watch for me. Our midfield has elite top end talent, but hasn't maximised it the past two years. A fresh voice and mind to structure ours mids differently could push us back into a dominant team. We lost our centre stoppage impact this year, but more importantly we actually got beat up there defensively. Seeing Carlton late in the season pile on 3 quick centre bounce goals against us when the game was on the line was heartbreaking. The ball movement through the midfield needs a refresh too, so McQualter could be our biggest trump card this coming season.

Agreed on the captaincy. Max is contracted through 2025 and himself said he can't see himself playing beyond this contract. That means he's got two seasons left and will be 34/35 when he retires. It's reasonable to assume he hands off captaincy soon. Lever is our most rounded leader and has been for years. He's the general, an on field coach, a vocal leader at training also setting standards, handles off field and media well. Personally I'd make him captain with Max or Viney vice.

Fantastic achievement by all. The girls are flying and look set to go back to back! AFL mens premiership 2021. VFL premiership 2022. AFLW premiership 2022. The club is in a really fruitful period of success. Enjoy it while it lasts and hopefully what has been built the past few years is sustainable long term.

I've seen him mostly as an intercept defender playing on mediums and smalls. He was pretty good, especially his marking, but nothing screamed top 5-10 pick compared to others on the field, especially Sanders and Mckercher. We need fresh elite midfield talent coming through, and multiple first round picks in a draft is the time to get some. I haven't seen him play midfield. What are peoples impressions of him in the guts?

Hopefully we pick him up as a father son either late or rookie. Though he's slight, he's a real goer and was actually one of Vic Metros best players! With a bit of work to build his body strength up he could definitely forge an afl career. Fingers crossed he makes it in red and blue.

Lost both finals by single digits. We were a bees [censored] away from a grand final and premiership. If we had a better run with injury in our forward half at the tail end of the year we would've won the premiership with little resistance. It's why 2023 hurts so much. Alongside the Bulldogs in 2016, Collingwood are the weakest premier of the century so far. They won their 3 finals by a cumulative margin of 12 points. Fully fit, we account for them comfortably and so do a few other teams. Next year is flag or bust. If we bail out of finals in straight sets again, or worse, then it's time for drastic action like sacking Goodwin or some seriously strong trading. This window won't stay open forever and we need to make the most of it now. We've realistically got 1-2 years strong years left before Gawn and May are out of contract and likely retiring or declining sharply. Make it count.

Very good comparison. His leg speed, two way running and attacking flair are a key reason why he's shooting up draft boards and we're reportedly interested.

It's very subjective. Others have posted some lists already showing that you can find quality all throughout a draft. How much of it comes down to development by club or the individual themselves can't really be measured. The absolute top players and leaders are generally first round picks though. Having a look at some current stars draft pick Bont pick 4 Petracca 2 Daicos 4 Oliver 5 Toby Greene 11 DeGoey 5 Butters 12 Rozee 5 Curnow 12 Darcy Moore 9 If you go back a generation you get the Buddy, Judd, Hodge, Dusty, Reiwoldt, Dangerfield, Selwood, Pendlebury, Roughhead, Pavlich etc all top 10 picks. Going through the best players, it seems the best midfielders are often first rounders, but tall quality is more spread across the draft, especially tall defenders Tall forwards used to be the cream first round but have actually become less reliable recently. I'd be drafting a midfielder with our first pick and that's likely Sanders if we don't trade up.

Sanders and Windsor would be a great result for us.

Cringe worthy and unprofessional. Our reported offer was overs as is. I'd be taking it off the table now given the rejection and then that pathetic statement. Their use of that meme makes them look like this meme We'll just take Reid back in a few years for a fraction of the cost thanks.

Jeez that's one of the worst video packages ever assembled. He dropped more uncontested marks than Chris Dawes! Kick fell short from 40 metre set shot again too. He's got aggression at the man, but he's got some serious work ahead of him to make it IMO. It does however show than young Kynan Brown is a goer and could be a steal as a late father son pickup.

We also delisted K Turner, meaning we're taking an extra pick to the draft now. We will now take 3 players plus rookie upgrades instead of 2 plus rookie upgrades. That likely means we tried to trade up, couldn't get a deal done, and now are taking 6+11+42 all to draft.

Correct there were disciplinary issues with drink driving that popped up. Recruiters were also unsure what position he was suited to as he seemed like a bit of a tweener. At 192cms he seemed too small for a KPF role and he'd be playing bursts in the midfield looking to develop as an inside mid. Hindsight shows his athleticism ensured he made it as a KPF, but it did take him him 6 years before clicking properly from both injury and form perspective. He's 27 before next season starts, so he's not as young as some think, further proof tall forwards generally take time. Its why JVR is extremely impressive for a 19 year old and well on his way to being one of the best KPFs in the league. Interestingly we were interested in Curnow as a big bodied midfielder rather than a forward but went with Weideman after selecting Oliver as an inside mid. On Caddy, he doesn't have the same athleticism that Curnow does. He doesn't have an explosive burst of pace off the mark, doesn't have much of a leap on him, struggles if he doesn't mark it, and kicking lacks penetration (barely makes it 50 metres).Though they're similar height, Curnow is far more physically blessed than Caddy appears to be. Really the only strengths I see with Caddy are aggression, and ability to read the ball in the air well and clunk marks at full extension when one on one. Not sure those strengths are enough to make it as a good AFL KPF at his height and don't think he's a top 10 pick personally.