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trade period hasn't started. A lot is planned, even more catered to and yet still things can materialise seemingly out of nothing. Who's have thought Trenners was 9/10ths out the door let alone on the table. It happened from almost nothing. Opportunities will spring up with no real warning because the Trade period is about 33% intent..66% knock on/butterfly effectI wouldn't be printing up too many bits of plastic with JW on it just yet.

of that ...id agree... its the other

that is only your opinion rpfc. there is no precedent for knuckle rapping from CAS wont be 2years...im going with 18months with allowances for voluntary suspensions. Bans enforced from m judgement that puts them out for this preseason..next season and following preseason yeah.,.. theyre worth heaps !!

none are worth anything ...if banned

nothing if banned

As to his abilities/potential...as far as that goes Ill sit on the fence. Goody Macca ought to know the ins and outs of this bloke. It's to the logic of entertaini the getting of a soon-to-be banned member of the illustrious 34 that has my head shaking !! I really think the club's being somewhat naive.

Im actually surprised 4 years is at all necessary...to get him to change clubs. Youd have thought anyone who had enough of that environment would jump at any half way reasonable offer. 4 years seems excessive ...to me.

WADA have previously stated that all bets are off now re the AFL. Theres no Backdating. Only an allowance for the voluntary suspensions already undertaken. People get confused its not backdating..Thats what the efc brigade keep pumping into the media. Thats what EFC WANT !! EFC and any club with a "34" will need to prepare for pain Its coming. This comfort or otherwise that many at clubs are exhibiting regarding the toxicity of having any of the 34 is quite frankly amazing....amazingly stupid really. Theres still this ideal of ...we're AFL ...we'll be right etc etc. No Ones getting a Xmas present other than WADA/ASADA Any comparison to the NRL fiasco os foolhardy. A different set of circumstances.. Different level of transgressions and culpability , not to mention they co-operated and didnt hold things up every 5 mins.. WADA were NOT happy..let alone comfortable with all of this. The use of comfort will be by some one pushiing a player/club barrow. WADA were decidedly disappointed with how events ran but decided to put a line through it all and call it a day. They have done entirely the opposite with the case of the 34 as the hearing on Nov 16 will attest. Even then they will not have finished and will be coming after the scoundrels who implemented it all If anyone in AFL land thinks they can afford any comfort they are in la-la land !!

Ive been super impressed with how MFC has gone about things but this trade truly flies in the face of logic. It's not about Milkshake's value / ability. It's about his pending banning. I just don't get it.

Ouch

on board ?About to be derailed !!

Unlike Bugg he's 1 of 34

Lets just hope by some extraordinary miracle he's even available to play in 2016 I doubt it

Not happy Jan

am just looking at what he can deliver.. think MC-2

i'll say it... wouldnt want Franklin

The thing is...get a player like Kennedy in and he'll give you probably 4 good years of high grade footy. Our own developing players start to come into the mix and you rely less and less on the imports but as you become a better team it actually becomes easier to keep topping up on good players as youre seen as a good place to play footy. its a process..an evolution

funny thing is...there sorta are wall-hammers !!

I dont think WADA do...cover it.. The AFL does. Whether they are paid or not, or what comes under player payments cap etc is for the AFL and the AFLPA do deal with. WADA's component in this is to say whether they CAN or CAN'T play. How thats dealt with afterwards is in most cases up to the respective sport or code.

I actually dont mind this...fiction /non...not fussed as a point of discussion. The 2 birds are speculative. WATTS is also really...will he/won't he ? Two get chances where where they are is currently limited. One gets to reboot. Interesting

Theyll on all likelihood get 2 years reduced to 18 Anyone on that list is out for 2016 Why bring any on board ? esp if theyre only so-so

beyond left field. ......Sign where ?

But it defeats the purpose surely.Ostensibly you're trading for a capable player and paying that at trade values. What you end up with is a 2nd rate substitute and you've lost out at trade. This just has dumb dumb dumb stamped all over it.

not mineIf..rather when, he is pinged i for one will be interested in how the club explains its foolhardness.

don't get the wrong ones then !!