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Hi Patrick.. How's it going ?

Cue... That bloke on holiday !!

Took it to be 'outlander' ...English. ( wherefore lil ol me heralds from ) Lest im not a Frankfurter lol

learn something here everyday...lol Ich bin ein sassenach

He probably want to paint a different picture

Probably more Demons in the Vatican than Saints

Where else ?

Wife and i do some fetes with Steiner schools. Sorry if my knowledge of them is disconcerting.

By far the most interesting thread here on DLand. Meanwhile back at the Gat.....

Born in what WAS Austria at the time but NOW Croatia. He however is deemed Austrian

Pickering......pffffffft The epitome of ethics !!!

Buck. Interesting analogy. I would suggest however Albert was more than aware of what was going on.....having instigated it !!

To me it's interesting how things are twisted, to suit. Danny boy's utterance " A great champion reduced to this " is not without merit. It's essentially truthful. Hird, a brilliant player in his day is now what he is. But Danny, please don't lose sight of the who and how of fault here....here's a hint JAH

I'll get the beers !!

There is the question of intent. Some suggest Hird did NOT intend to cheat.. I fail to understand how he did not.. From the outset he wished to explore the "grey areas" , find a loop hole, find something that wasnt outlawed. He was more than happy to flirt in areas of the unknown, indeed employ those who specialised in the "unknown" ...or not -to -be- discovered. He was looking for that edge, that advantage over other teams. In and of itself to find advantages is not verbotten but to do so on the other side of the fence is.. Golden Boy's black ops was not only over the fence but in a hut ( no one knows ) with shaded windows. How this is not cheating is anyone's guess. ASADA thought it was naughty. The AFL just didnt want to know.

We'll have no "poor old snookems" here ty very much lol

I see the Gat got another over whelming endorsement n the press today Notorious hotel a hotbed of villianary "MORE than 50 serious crimes including rapes, drug dealing, and vicious assaults occurred at the notorious Gatwick Hotel in a six-month period last year."

Wrecker, Hird and his henchmen ran , effectively, a black ops at Windy Hill. Officially the club either weren't privy to all and sundry and/or those that knew looked away. Golden Boy was headhunted to lead the way. Some of the more influential,if nefarious, all but granted him carte blanche !! This isn't by the book, accountable leadership

Given he was warned by the AFL very early in the piece as it was brought to their attention about his interest in many and various exotic 'potions', given it was his connection to the weapon that saw Danks come on board, given it was essentially His idea to create the program, given the texts between parties....yeah......Nah !

James Hird is a despot a narcissist of the Dorian Gray caliber. He is disconnected from reality and a slave to his own very well developed ego. His children deserve compassion.,His children deserve concern, his children I feel for. All of James actions have been about James, even this last effort. Some may say Im deplorable for having this view. Others may share my clarity. James Hird is a victim of self. There are any number of AFL players who are also victims of his self . Not once has he ever taken ownership of his misdoings. He has at times feigned concern and yet all of his actions legal and otherwise were about James. He needs help....for his kids sake He also needs to be life banned from Sport

I wonder what his actual condition is, what the true nature of his illness is . Depression is indeed a nasty passenger. Ill state quite plainly i have no time, no sympathy at all for Hird. As far as im concerned this is all of his making, all his current malaise would be as a result of decisions he has made and indeed thrust upon others all out of ego and maniacal delusion. He had choices. He wears them now. For the sake of his kids i do hope he can get his life back to some place where he can be something of a parent. Only for them would i have a concern. This Saga has come to the place where those who sought to deceive are being trapped in webs of their own mischief. Danks wont be far off

WJ. Do we just disregard that he brought all of this on himself. Now playing the victim card when all things regarded this is the polar opposite of the truth. I have some sympathy on the kiddywinkies who got bamboozled along the way ( but was still theirs to decide ) The Hirds of the world are what stains this game. Sorry Jack i cant abide the kid gloves. I do feel sorry for his kids though.

Consider Mr Hird snr is the tree that Mr Hird jnr fell from. One hell of a fall, not much of a tree.

James deserves his own thread. He is a victim after all.... Then close it I wondered how long it would take.