beelzebub

not sure it reads that way...not for me at least.Seems to indicate Roughy should be the hero...

Some didn't lol

Some real scatter brains here

LH...i certainly acknowledge your view and appreciation of the vernacular but it might be carving cute to differentiate a pronoun ? The subject, object and content remain the same JAH is a psychopathical with Icarus issues.

Golly...Someone had the audacity to call a spade a spade !! why I never....lol A lot of the people having a go at Smith are the same incredulous hypocritical lot that deliver crud instead of balanced journalism. God forbid that anyone would call into question their voracity as well as clarity on the issue !! Why exactly should anyone require sympathy for Hird ?? I dont ( his kids yes ) JAH ? Not a bit

Worth nothing as would/should be returned to AFL

Alchemy ... Turning base metals into Gold AlFLemy ... Turning anything of value into mould

Hi Patrick.. How's it going ?

Cue... That bloke on holiday !!

Took it to be 'outlander' ...English. ( wherefore lil ol me heralds from ) Lest im not a Frankfurter lol

learn something here everyday...lol Ich bin ein sassenach

He probably want to paint a different picture

Probably more Demons in the Vatican than Saints

Where else ?

Wife and i do some fetes with Steiner schools. Sorry if my knowledge of them is disconcerting.

By far the most interesting thread here on DLand. Meanwhile back at the Gat.....

Born in what WAS Austria at the time but NOW Croatia. He however is deemed Austrian

Pickering......pffffffft The epitome of ethics !!!

Buck. Interesting analogy. I would suggest however Albert was more than aware of what was going on.....having instigated it !!

To me it's interesting how things are twisted, to suit. Danny boy's utterance " A great champion reduced to this " is not without merit. It's essentially truthful. Hird, a brilliant player in his day is now what he is. But Danny, please don't lose sight of the who and how of fault here....here's a hint JAH

I'll get the beers !!

There is the question of intent. Some suggest Hird did NOT intend to cheat.. I fail to understand how he did not.. From the outset he wished to explore the "grey areas" , find a loop hole, find something that wasnt outlawed. He was more than happy to flirt in areas of the unknown, indeed employ those who specialised in the "unknown" ...or not -to -be- discovered. He was looking for that edge, that advantage over other teams. In and of itself to find advantages is not verbotten but to do so on the other side of the fence is.. Golden Boy's black ops was not only over the fence but in a hut ( no one knows ) with shaded windows. How this is not cheating is anyone's guess. ASADA thought it was naughty. The AFL just didnt want to know.

We'll have no "poor old snookems" here ty very much lol

I see the Gat got another over whelming endorsement n the press today Notorious hotel a hotbed of villianary "MORE than 50 serious crimes including rapes, drug dealing, and vicious assaults occurred at the notorious Gatwick Hotel in a six-month period last year."

Wrecker, Hird and his henchmen ran , effectively, a black ops at Windy Hill. Officially the club either weren't privy to all and sundry and/or those that knew looked away. Golden Boy was headhunted to lead the way. Some of the more influential,if nefarious, all but granted him carte blanche !! This isn't by the book, accountable leadership