Everything posted by beelzebub
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Actually Im not overlooking it . Thats exactly what he IS doing/did. He and his manager will have a strategy. Saying very little is part of it. What I do suspect is that what we as public get fed is days/weeks old...again for show The driving up of the price has already been accomplished. All parties will pretty well know where they all stand, have done for some while Id guess. There is very little that would be new in all of this. Everyone has known when Jesse's paper runs out. Freo will have had a very concerted effort running in the background for ages.Melbourne are no fools, they knew this was coming. So what happens? Well its a bit like a game of Misere etc. It's all about the timing of the playing of certain cards. In this instance everyone says absolutely nothing untoward.You dont blink til you have to. Both Melb and Hogan wait for the offers...I am somewhat guessing but id have to think the offer is well and truly already known to Hogan from Freo ( for some time ). Melbourne in the main preo-ccupied as a club til our finals tilt ended but the List management people would be only too aware of anything thats happening. Thats THEIR job.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Re tax. Unless it's changed there is actually provision by the ATO to treat certain kinds of earnings differently. Elite sports used to be ( might still be ) such a one. Essentially earnings can be spread over time. It's far more complex but that's the gist. The Point ? Jesse earning 300-400k more elsewhere p.a.. will still be a large difference.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
And the most noticeable silence is from....... Jesse. He's not staying.... otherwise he could have easily said so and put this all to bed ages ago. People need to look beyond the advertised mail. It's irrelevant...meetings etc. We have these things called phones. Quite clever devices in told. Everything else .. EVERYTHING ...is for show.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Whatever the value we get for Jesse we need it to be playing next year and becoming part of our premiership/s team as early as possible. Any idea of delaying or seeking to buy into the draft for kids who may or may not be something...and some unknown time down the track is plain folly. As LH alludes we'll trade for whatever gets the next deal/s done and someone/s on the park.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
In Hogan's going we'll be after player/s imho. Unless there is someone very special in the draft I think as a club we've adopted the general thinking of Roos ( and others...some here ) Trade is for getting players ready to go, ready to fill a role. You go shopping in drafts for projects etc.
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Farewell Dean Kent
So we need 2 x 3rd rounders to be sure ? ???
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - STEVEN MAY
Not sure Peter would put in a good word for us
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Farewell Dean Kent
That's their 3rd rnd pick. About right We got both McDonalds with similar. ( edit: Sorry Chook.Didnt see your post )
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I agree...sorry..that probably irks you But youre right I think. I sense the trading is to get May..and some up and comer perhaps. The drafts picks are a different issue per se. The club ( ours ) just wants ITS result...then it's all good as far as it goes
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Sorry Jaded if I steal your post but these two lines intrigue me What if the result of him leaving...i.e trades etc..Improves the club ?? I ask as Im club first, player afterwards many are/have possibly suggested...we simply have to make the best of a bad situation. I think it's a good situation we can do really well out of. And in doing so Jesse doesnt come off too shabby either granted...I think differently to many
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Rumour File
It would actually make some sense
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
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That was indeed my cryptic point ...Cheers- Farewell Jesse Hogan
Just out of curiosity Has Hogan..or his management come out to flatly deny any of this ?? discuss- Farewell Jesse Hogan
well ... in a fashion, exactly...When its maximum value to both parties..Jess AND US...if we wait..its just Hogan. Thats no sling at him...just a reality- Farewell Jesse Hogan
any dealing will address NEEDS and GAPS for NOW... thats the opportunity of this.- Farewell Jesse Hogan
well...im not going to say " I didnt see that coming !!" ( this time ) lol- Farewell Jesse Hogan
we might be doing the carving- Farewell Jesse Hogan
No one's been spooked. This sort of thing happens from a long way back. Dont get suckered in to believing player/manager/club speak during a season. The MFC will know EXACTLY what its doing- Farewell Jesse Hogan
well....yes and a few trimmings !!- Farewell Jesse Hogan
Now we go from Club/Player Speak....to Talking Turkey !!- Farewell Jesse Hogan
Gday Wiseblood...we often dont see eye to eye. Thats part of the wonderful make up of this form...the opportunity to have a different view Whether this finally transpires or not, it in a fashion, simply vindicates the stand some of us had that this was in all likelihood a much better than evens chance of occurring. And should it...what could /would/should we do about it. Some of us were pilloried for even suggesting such a thing . For mine its simply about a very basic maxim.. " never say never ( in this case footy ) " Id agree that some things are beyond 'not-likely' to the point of "forget it" but then a lot in this game falls to the ...."well, let's just wait and see" Should he go it's a very unique opportunity to upgrade some of our stocks. Chances are The winning suitor will pay whatever is required to win the deal. A bit like us and Lever An interesting off season ahead wouldnt you think Go Dees- Farewell Jesse Hogan
I reckon there were a few- Oliver to have surgery on BOTH shoulders!
Clarry....you shouldn't try to carry the expectations of so many upon your shoulders!!- Tom Bugg gone
- Farewell Jesse Hogan