beelzebub

only 99 ?

sorry Old.. His CAN NOT be the example we are trying to set for the culture going forward for our club. Your view dare I say reaks of desperation for success and whilst Ive probably been waiting just as long as you I wont have it.There has to be some standards in society otherwise anarchy rules. Those held up to be role models can not be these thuggish type. Not for me. I want a flag just as much as the next bloke but theres a line. Football is NOT exempt from the basics of common decency that exist elsewhere in life. Id rather our club eshewed the lowlife clandestine dog-act vulgaity that is the likes of Judd and embrace more the likes of Landy,still got his just deserts without foregoing sportsmanship and decency.

ah huh !!

Im glad the bastard didnt end up coming to Melbourne...Id be embarassed.

yes I seem to remember something about that.Hes not the mesiah....hes a very naughty boy !!

Rubbish he has history. He used 'pressure points " etc.. as well as gouging. He understands how to disarm ( npi ) someone and thats his m.o. he likes to take cheap shots when they present and I bet London to a brick there are many more instances that simply go un-noticed. Leopard-Spots Judd-thug same dif

Of course he uses 'we' ...he is after all taking the p!ss !!!

Judds was a malicious act premeditated. Its unconcionable really that any player would act in that way. Totally outside the spirit of the game and brings the game itself into disrepute . Judd got off very lightly in my view. I have my suspicion half the reason the AFL jumped on it so quickly was to contain it and mitigate the punishment. Possibly the MRP might have dealt with it more harshly but we'll never know now. Judd should change his ambassadorial role from Visy to PAL !!!

Well Carlscum and in particular Crudd, may the karma faeries smite you both down big time from here on in. What a contrived and cynical defence to offer up. That Carlton would go to such lengths is hardly surprising but for anyone to have the temrity to offer up such p!ssweak mitigation for what is obviously a dog of an act is scandalous. That the AFL even bought it is almost as bad, but then they have form themselves of fawning over their prized franchise players. For mine he should have been rubbed out for at least the rest of the year and ideally one into next season. But again the Teflon t*#d gets away with it. To the AFL, what sort of message do you think this really sends to all the Mums and Dads out there ? You could have been a man about this Crudd..totally fessed up as having a brain fade and totally remorseful but no, you again lie through your arse. Doesnt matter, we cal all see you for exactly what you are , contemptable. Once a star, now just a blackhole.

4 weeks !!! what a f*#!en joke !!!! bunch of softcox at the Tribunal. Trenners got 3.. for what...an essentialy legal tackle !! ffs Judd............................. words fail me

I recall Harrington mentioning it some littlel whiles ago. I may search for it ..or someone else might remember it .

With any luck hell be rubbed out for the ret of this year and one game next year. He got away with this lurk once before , hopefully karma kicks in

thats not quite right RR..Hes now devalued. He had value to the club last year. Now he doesnt.

why on earth is the Defence even asked what they will 'admit' to...charge the fool with whatever is the transgression and let him deal with it. Dont give him bloody options ffs !!

crucify this bastard I reckon.. Not only has he no regard for the actual safety of others he is just a lying a*#%hole. Now he is just trying to get cute to minimise his punishment. He should feel the full force of the tribunal...... but he wont.. he's Judd. its all wrong

youre a funny lad. Attempting cudos upon the back of another. Id talk to anyone and have ovrr the years at the odd function and such . I wouldnt be alone in my view so maybe we book a table. By the way. Which part(s) do you dispute ? and how do you substantiate your position.

Rpfc.. Good post.You see the forrest when many only see trees and some not even those bdfore they smack their heads on the sturdy branches of the truth.

i gave it. What thought due that is.

THBT... I have my own view on those particlar days ( The CB v MFC..last days ) In my opinion ( and its only that ) he well and truly used the Jnr fiasco as a lever to his own end..and CAMe unstuck !!! He made his bed...and he short sheeted himself. His efforts as a player. Well you could never mistake his ardour towards his role, but many will argue his absolute value on the ground. As some say he was a very good tagger, and he was, he was also a clanger king and honourary ambassador for HBA I reckon. Many are divided as to his effectiveness on the ground and rate him accordingly. I have no idea what he would offer Melbourne. For me #32 was an over rated player. But he was a Melbourne player...for the most part. His earlier days were far better watching. In latter years it was like spectating a car accident. ( in slow motion ) . Enjoy your retirement ( from elite footy ) Cam. Theres a whole rest-of-your -life ahead.

it was Hird

This is an interesting comment.It's not often someone has a whinge and yet provides the reasoning for the occurence all in the same sentence.

You obviously dont want to understand things as they actually occurred. The Club was NOT about stopping Bruce remainig with the Club. There was an offer. It just didnt meet with Cams exalted value on himself. And in a bizarre twist its my understanding he went to the Hawks purely on rthe basis of being offered 2 years as opposed to Melbournes 1 x 1. . Im not sure about the money as various sources suggest he may have even gone for less in the end than we ofered. But thats heresay.Do some of us have a rather dim view of Cams history of negotiating. You bet. No one decries anyones right to barter or get the best they can but there were definitely moments in his MFC career where he manifestly put his position before that of the club. So excuse me if I take the opposite view that the Club is much bigger than him , and ANY player for that matter.. "Like the love Brad gets" ?? do you mean from the club. If so hes simply expected like any player to make the grade, be match fit and if his forms dictates and he fits that week's plans of the coaching dept he would/does get a game. If you refer to the view or comments by posters, I would have thought in the main he is held id quite high regard. NO ONE is an auto start every week now. Thats a big step forward for mine in changing hte culture of the playing group. That some of us here or indeed the FD of the club would expect him to fill those requirements is hardly excessive.

Bob says hello !!

and finally ...REASON

except for the actuality that Bruce had history of holding the club to ransom. Jnr never did and I respect him for it and feel for the nature he was released.Cam got his ..... such is life, so be it etc It actually annoys me that the handling of these two are often seen as deserving equal viewing.