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SA Rules: Kick or handpass and it goes over the line without a player touching it and it goes to the opposition, fumbled or tapped over the line it is a throw in

there a number of times the ball was shepherded over...just made a mockery of it all. As one wag next to me commented the only actual obvious "deliberate" outs weren't penalised, as they're legal.. Just a joke

Strikes me as not 100% but better (again ) than any likely replacement.

Yes.. Frost on Heppell. Id call that......a...smother

The SANFL have it worked out. Should adopt there ideas. Bit of a stretch for Gil i realise.

It's just possible...but shhh Seriously , given his 'interesting' path and start with us and seeing him evolve he might well one day have his own ' silverware'

Shame

D O O B Deliberate Out Of Bounds to the anagram Acronym ( thanks Demonstone..lol ) challenged. I can't remember a more contentious rule affecting our game. It's not only horribly considered and formulated but near on impossible really to decipher and the implementation is laughable bordering counter effective to its supposed reason. Fortunately our old friend Titus has received some timely updates . It clarifies it all. A memo from the National Umpiring Director Peter Schwab to all umpires regarding the Deliberate Out of Bounds Rule (DOOB) has been leaked. Here it is in full. FROM: National Umpiring Director To: ALL UMPIRES In recent weeks, the deliberate out of bounds rule has been the source of significant criticism from key stakeholders in the Football Marketplace of Ideas. As a result, and to make your job easier, we have clarified the rule and added even more interpretation, the solution to all umpiring problems. Here is the updated rule, to be applied from this round: Law 15.6.1(c) A free kick shall be awarded against a player who: Intentionally kicks, handballs or forces the football over the boundary line, without the football being touched by another player. The primary consideration in determining DOOB is the player’s intent or what mood the closest umpire is in at the time. A good rule of thumb is if you haven’t rewarded DOOB for a while, just decide that the next ball out will be deliberate, then pause a long time when it happens for the drama and award it. The below indicators can assist your decision-making process: Do you like the player or are they on the secret protected list? Has the player made a genuine skill error? If they have, don’t worry give a free against them anyway. Is the player kicking the ball off the ground under pressure? If so, the player will not be penalised unless it’s a critical moment in the game and the resulting free kick will significantly affect the outcome of the game. Is the player kicking the ball up the field to teammates, or is he kicking the up the ground with the intention of finding the boundary line? The ability to read minds comes in handy here, if you can’t do that, just take a wild stab. Did the ball travel past several opponents who could have picked it up but didn’t in the hope you’d pay deliberate? Then reward this as DOOB. It’s a wonderful look for the sport. Did the player dispose of the ball in a clever ruse of fumbling and even though it’s obviously deliberate you appreciated the acting skills? Then don’t pay a free. At least once a quarter, don’t reward an obvious DOOB to keep things interesting. If DOOB is awarded up the other end, wait until an identical situation occurs up your end, then make the polar opposite decision. As always, Razor can interpret this rule based on the camera being on him and the theatrical potential of the moment. A reminder, with Mark Evans leaving, the Hawthorn Special Treatment Loading is no longer in place. DOOB is less science, more art. As always, we are not looking for consistency or fairness, our aim is uncertainty and confusion, transitioning to anger. I hope this makes things more difficult for you. Yours in confusion Peter - See more at: https://titusoreily.com/afl/afl-memo-clarification-deliberate-out-bounds#sthash.7M7woJXJ.dpuf

I would be inclined to agree. I have a gut feeling ( no evidence ) that its not for want of suitors...just the $ I trust the club ( these days ) to sort it out to our best advantage. In mean time..quite like the 'cleanliness"

Watts is better being Watts..not filling in.

I have. I' m cognisent of your point. It came from clubs. Im surprised they dont use eyes. My opinion..and its mine granted is most of these stats are just bogus bullshlt. All of this is most suited ( even alluded ) to the realms of fantasy footy etc. Probably where they should be left.

Was the turbulence from those planes zapping around !!

LH.. thankyou I still question the validity of these 'acts' stats. Feel more informed for your effort.

Not at all.. not in place of Spencer. He should have been selected as a fwd relieving in the ruck. That was a requirement at the time and selection got it wrong by not acknowledging it.

Theyre just justifying a commercial position. Much of footy..any sport is instinct built upon skills. The minutae is just that, almost a meaningless nothing. Only when anything is given structure, context, increased fabric that any shape or quality builds. In reality it's effectively the blindingly obvious that have any meaningful substance. Statisticians love to talk about their product. Theyve conned whole industries, sport being one. The problem with trying to apply this sort of science is that the game is essentially chaos theory with an oval ball. Practically nothing is an isolated event. The data treats it as though there were.

The min Max went down and with Jesse out it was a slam dunk lay down misere....to everyone bar the selection panel it seems. His performance Sunday bears out our frustration.

Honestly...wtf is a pressure act ? Absolute mumbo jumbo bs. This highlights a big ( for mine ) problem with footy today. This incessant breakdown into non meaningful elements. So much abouts stats are farcical in so much as the metric has either become subjective and therefore non transferable, nor truly comparable or they are half stats. By this i sggest a disposal is actually not effective if it doesnt actually benefit the play ( as opposed left one player and simply got to another, or simply disposed of without penalty. These only half tell a story. So ...a pressure act ? If its about an intent...and not a result....a player might as well be just sneering as his opponent for all the good it will do ? A pressure act ...is that like half a tackle ? Is it like trying to corral a player but not really ? Like contesting a mark but completely in wrong spot...but cobtested !! Sorta not quite. What defines a successful pressure act from a nearly/not-quite ? I'll tell you one pressure act JKH cant do currently...thats Scoeboard Pressure. Now that you CAN measure very clearly !!

Whilst i like to see players evolve i have no issues if the Weid plays oyt 17 in the magoos. He's young. We dont feed the crocodiles anymore with young meat. Surely we've learnt that. He has ability has young Sam, but he needs a lot of development. The firsts is NOW about competition and winning. If you not part of that solution, as they say, then you're a part of the problem. Pedersen provides a fillip to a solution. He stays til usurped.

Hopefully he'll see the value of fitness and application. He seems to be enjoying his Footy. Maybe he'll come to the next preseason with his current outlook. Mind boggles as to where he can go.

Dribs and drabs now.

He barracked for the Dees as a kid I'm told ( happily corrected if wrong )

In some previous games this season ive lamented that i felt some games , there for the winning, were possibly not because not only were some players not doing their jobs but perhaps Goody wasn't tweaking, adjusting the game ( sufficiently )to get us there. A coach can only do so much , but that has to be done. I got a sense on Sunday he's getting better. It was a dogs breakfast of a game and apologies to dogs. Somehow from amongst this garbage a recasting of the runes was required. I thought Goody did well here. I had thought before the game that the halfback line was the 'pivot' . I thought this is where the halt/rebound would instigate. As all over the ground it was just messy. The moving of Vince and Lewis into the midfield fray livened things up. Viney lifted. Things happened. Hurley was really spoiling our party. Kudos..a lone hand ( or two ) constantly using his height/ reach and sticky hands to great effect. Goody's instructions.... get the ball on the deck...get ball. Whether an instruction or a result of now better commanding the guts we didn't search as far and wide coming to goal.Still used the flanks but avoided the pockets. Goals piled on. I thought this was percievably good gameday coaching.

Not the actual catalyst for mine, but he certainly upped our effect. Vince and Lewis into the guts was to me the instigation of change.

AF i think you're close to the money. Well get over the 40000 this season... eventually. Even with getting into finals a few years running we wont get much more, if, 45000. Only so many cats dogs and babies you join up. A Premiership is the Golden Key. There are those who want that before 'comitting'

There was no first half. The AFL had an extended pre game show. Unfortunately there was no budget and press ganged the players instead in a very similar way the old 'footy show' of the sixties had a team a week doing a cabaret act that made Fitzroy St look like the Follies Bergere !! There was only a 'shortened" game thereafter....started after the Little league encore