daisycutter

sort of.....think it means we should be able to put an estimate on it, in 4-6 weeks 'cos at the moment we have nfi ?

Meaning 'the son of Patrick', Patten is a baptismal name. Variants include Paton, Patton, Padon, Pate, Patt, Patey, Peyton and Payton. This name is often of Scottish descent spreading to Ireland, England and Wales in early times and is found in many mediaeval manuscripts throughout these countries. a distant relative?

all the best froggy, hope you make a full recovery footy is too stressful for you while you convalesce , so i suggest you have a complete break from footy this season. you will need to find a hobby though and i'm sure uncle bitters will be more than happy to suggest a few

ah ha....the old favourites dilution theory....something like the inverse of favorites to the power #captains.....can't quite remember.....wyl should remember

schwartz pre knee reconstruction would have to be up there....had it all

ok. ds. I did say " there has to be a transition whereby the comp allows for a living wage by becoming fully professional. Only then can you truly get an elite game" I agree with you that you don't need to be fully professional to get an elite game. I should reword that last bit to say "Only then will you be able to develop the best quality outcome" p.s. I know it becomes a bit of a semantic argument but i personally wouldn't describe the current aflw as "elite". I don't mean that as a criticism of the aflw, just an opinion . I'm aware that the aflw is necessarily going through a development process and the ongoing improvement (of individuals) is really apparent and encouraging. It will take time . I'm not convinced the afl has taken the best path so far but i think the die is cast and there is no turning back to a different model.

that may be so in ireland. ds, but it is irrelevant here because the aflw has no interest in being an amateur competition afl(vfl) was amateur too once. but those days are long past and there is no turning back now

why do you care about my opinion on on something you say i shouldn't care about? Does it affect you? you enjoy being on discussion forums? and before we go on let me say i think it's great that women can play aussie rules. I'm all for it and i hope it is great success. I also support the afl getting it established. I hope one day aflw becomes a fully fledged professional elite competition that is able to stand on its own and fund itself. ......so, does that make me weird? great have a meaningful discussion with you......not

yeah, me too. i thought it must have been an optical illusion.

sorry rgb but that is just a load of platitudes as for equal pay. why? afl players are on individual contracts based on their own personal talents, limited of course by the salary cap. The salary cap is set from a share of the afl income (from men). less afl income, less salary cap, less individual contract value. So the issue of aflw player payments should (utimately) be an issue of aflw income. There is no entitlement here. male afl players don't all get the same contract value and the contracts they do get reflect a combination of their individual talent and the profitability of the afl comp.

it's easy to argue both ways. binman, because in the end it's just opinion trying to predict the future and the best way to get there. at the moment the big issue is money. the aflw women have already flagged it. at the moment the aflw comp is basically an amateur comp lasting 8 weeks (with any player payments lucky to cover player's overheads). there has to be a transition whereby the comp allows for a living wage by becoming fully professional. Only then can you truly get an elite game. so far i have yet to see a business case as to where this money will come from. Money-wise aflw is just another franchise money pit to add to gcs and gws with no relief money-wise in sight. but i'm sure gil has all the answers ?

the "male" players are already effectively subsidising the aflw. all the money (most of) comes from the afl leaving less for the afl players to scrap for. aflw is a long long way off paying for itself. probably more than 10 years at best. also lots of questions re future i.e. will there be eventually 18 teams, will they play longer seasons, will they eventually switch to a winter season like afl, etc etc

ah......but big maxie is the coach's right hand man

piers plays polo? who'd have thunk?

2020 pre-season interruptus

a disingenuous woke conservative?

true that

they never were upset, it was the people-perpetually-aggrieved-by- proxy who were upset. The black swan better look out.

so the pot calling the kettle black.....hmm, love it

reminds me of the fairy penguins debacle

moniac......i like it.... nice polish name ?

agreed.....getting good training reports this year

i get the monia bit, dieter ?

or cor******us ?

like dieter?