Its Time for Another

Lets face it there's only three pieces of information you get in the pre season. 1. Who's not training or in rehab. The most useful preseason info. 2. Injuries during training. I'd almost prefer not to hear about this one. 3. Observations from supporters about how the team is training the place down and especially some players who then don't go on to play games. We never get the info we'd really like which is what went wrong last season and what's being worked on this pre season to fix it.

It's all about the run up silly not the post kick.

A lot of people getting carried away here on the basis of this boys' running ability and height. Don't forget we already have one of these on the list who came in very experienced, holds the 2km time trial record at his old team and has a brute 194cm mature physique. So far he's failed on the wing he was brought in to play on. This kids a raw project player. He could be an upgrade on Isaac Smith or he could be a Tomlinson. Time will tell. Of course like everyone I hope it's the former but lets get a bit of reality here.

Malcolm Blight did alright.

Bentleigh Club was never revalued from the time we took it over until now. Not sure why but can see why they'd do it now to soften the blow of the current year result by showing a much stronger asset base. From memory the actual money left over after the sale of Leighoak was $8mill. From memory there were debts or costs etc that brought it back to that from $11mill. I would love to know what the original intention was in 2018 for this sale and what they planned to do with the proceeds. It seems a great shame to have such a rare asset in the history of the MFC being chewed up to cover operating costs and reduce debt.I believe it was an investment made in the Gutnick era. I had hoped the plan was to use it for some type of revenue raising. It appears there's now only $1.6mill left and probably nothing by end of next year. Although some has been used to eliminate debt. Although we show a healthy financial position it isn't a realistic picture as we are the only club in 18 that doesn't have it's own training and admin base. The financial position will only be comparable to other clubs when we have the full debt for the training base. The $8mill from Leighoak clearly will be gone before that project even starts.

It's a real shame AFL didn't take the opportunity to split these so we get one a year instead of both every two years which is so much harder to manage from a cashflow point of view. It's a mixed blessing getting both next year which is looking very much like crowds will still have to be limited so while we get them next year they will be worth a lot less. But of course better than losing them all together which was also quite possible given the way the AFL treats us.

Isn't there an aquatic centre out there in the wider complex. I guess recovery and swimming training can go on there. It's not all the other things but it's some.

Wonder if we now negotiate directly with him for the pick swaps tomorrow night. :)

Also worth noting that in 2020 McKay was surrounded with McGovern & Casboult taking 2 key defenders and in previous years add in Charlie Curnow whereas Weid was often the no. 1 forward having to deal with the no. 1 & no 2 defenders in most games. Yet he still stacked up very well v McKay & the others. The forward line has to perform better in 2021. Surely! Go Weid.

I won’t bite other than to say Fascinating response on many levels. Especially for an Australian footy forum. As far as DL is concerned I stand corrected.

Surely Colliewobbles are going to have a massive challenge attracting elite players after the way they treated Treloar. I’ve never seen anything like it. Entice an elite player away from their team with a massive salary offer. As soon as he arrives pressure him to defer his salary, then keep doing that for a number of years. Then when it’s due effectively sack him. Then start spreading malicious untrue rumours that the senior players don’t want you at the club. Wow. Good luck getting players there after that performance. mind you 72 million Americans just voted to re-elect Trump so anything’s possible.

Know what I mean. Know what I mean......So what’s it really like........

Don't know if anyone has done this but interesting to look at what we gave up to get 18 & 19. Basically it was next year's 1st rd + Preuss + 53 & next year's 3rd rounder Final deal was Next year's 1st rounder + 25 + 68 + 69 (Think you can ignore the last 2.) These were the deals to get 25 = 31 & 43. 31 was Preuss 43 = 53 & future 3rd rd. Say we come 7th next year. We will have given up pick 12 in next year's draft Preuss 53 & around 50 in next year's draft. I would say 53 in this year's draft is not going to be worth much. So if it's say dropping from next year's 12 to this year's 18 because there's a player we think is exactly what we need and we give up Preuss & 50 for 19 for the same reason or to combine them for a much higher pick, it doesn't look that bad.

If Zac Dawson can get a couple of life lines so can O Mac.

I suppose one aspect of there being so many Academy etc picks in the top 20 is on the other hand it will be one of the most predictable top 20’s ever in knowing what players will go where as those picks and what few players left will be available at our kicks. Maybe in the pool if players left there is a gem or 2 they’re very confident will be there. And they will be the dream speed and skill we do desperately need that will propel us to the promised land. Easy.

Lets hope and pray we're on the right side of that ledger.

Uncle BBO I took that to mean he is flighty about whether he is going to stay or go. I don't think that's a slur if that is what was meant. I choose to hear what I want to hear and in this case I'm listening to Pennant St Dee and look forward to hearing about him signing an extension sooner than later. I know some might find that somewhat ironic given I mentioned someone else's observation that he hasn't signed an extension yet. BB won't let him go now anyway.

There could be many reasons why he hasn't agreed to an extension yet. Only one being he is contemplating going home. I hope and pray that's not one of them.

Look forward to that. I fear that if he doesn't sign reasonably early next year this will become a deafening roar.

Very close mates. I think Rivers last year when drafted called him his best mate. Went through junior juniors as little kids all the way to Demons.

We've just got to have such a good year next year that we are irresistible. Keep him and attract others. If I had to pick I'd rather keep him than Oliver. I reckon he's a cause of cultural issues. Over inflated ego. Would we take Kelly for Oliver? I think so. Not saying that's even in contemplation.

Let's just hope they are holding off to see what the TPP ends up being post Covid and where the club ends up with it's salary cap after trade week. See if they create some space before they finalise a deal with him. I always thought Hogan was going to go. I'm more confident about Jackson. Based on......? The vibe.

I so hope you're right. Surely we couldn't have this happen again could we.

A mate with no contacts so just his idea that Jackson hasn't signed to extend his contract while Kossie & Rivers have so he thinks he's probably out the door end of next season in which case we'll get a first rounder or two for him. Plus rumours about Oliver wanting out won't go away so maybe 2 first rounders for him as well next year.

Only other players I've heard through this week connected to us are Polec or T Phillips. This deal doesn't sound like one that would be relevant to either of them.