Wolfmother

They are the same algorithms usually weighting about 150 data points. I have friends who run against the bookies with algorithms weighting about 800 data points (and moving towards 5000).

Is this true??? It wouldn't surprise me as me as it seems the AFL are pushing the 'brand' or 'entertainment' line and we don't want our stars missing etc etc and failing to understand what the tribunal was designed for

Has Goodwin brought his game plan from Essendon which is Etihad based?? Does it stand up at the G? Im not sure which way it will go but I hope we improve on the G

Watttttttts

Yes but need a couple to end the contest. Five scoring contests for one goal will cost us!!

If we don't score a goal from this momentum we'll lose this

First to kick accurately will win

Damn it's even Stevens now... if we could of kicked another (without their point) we would of broken them

Please don't let a late one in

Loss of confidence

Love the Trac/bugg handshake

Had a hip injury that has kept him out for five weeks and might have impacted 'tis early season form... He was the captain of a team playing off in the grand final in 2016... you can have bad seasons but don't lose talent overnight

Wouldn't mind having a crack at Jack.., he has been injured this season and he would be perfect at 29 to replace a Vince. Only if he came to us in a Lewis type deal leadership but not expected to be our best player and I think he would suit our team

Is he a restricted free agent or just out of contract??

The ump on the day signal high against Salem then advantage. Don't know where the high was but that was the call/signal.

West Coast lost their first two choices as ruck include NiCNat as an AA ruckman... they don't write off the season because of it FFS our ruckman is walking around the club calling himself 'the difference'. Whilst in humour, it shows that our players except/believe because we have an injury to our star players it's okay to but up an effort and lose

Willmoy can you please explain how you consider the letter racist. I would honestly like to know as my initial thought is 'just because you criticise a bloke who happens to be indigenous' that doesn't make it rascist, which is what I inferred from your comment

I really don't think he was humiliated but his performance was questioned and in particular goodwins decisions were questioned. Whilst not mainstream, I work in an environment where you can be told your performance is sh^t and not look to blame someone else. Most look at their performance and know they can improve it or if not find out what they are doing wrong.

So it's okay to make comments as long as no one finds out??? The head in the sand mentality on here reminds me of the old 'dont ask, don't tell' policy... everything is fine as long as it's not public, then we have a problem

The guy hasn't stated anything untrue, so I fail to see how they have contributed to the clubs humilation. Whilst they have highlighted it and caused the AFL media machine to analysis Melbourne decisions:performance (above the other 17 clubs) the only people who have humiliated the club are those that make the decisions/play for it. Sometimes the truth hurts... and although I doubt this will cause any change maybe it might start the conversation

There is always a reason(ie excuse) as to why others clubs can do it but we can't. We are always heading there, we just never arrive.

So although we all agree with the contents of the message it shouldn't be said in public???? I don't understand this stance or position. Why should these highly paid professionals avoid having their actions scrutinised???

While I don't agree with the contents of the letter, I'm actually happy about it. For too long a Melbourne loss was a shrug of the shoulders, an oh well they tried. It's about time more was demanded from this club and unacceptable performances are put under the microscope.

What!!!! Demonland isn't a closed group so everything on here is in the open forum. What's the difference between bagging a player on here or on social media????

So who will be available? Is it players on their last legs but can improve the clubs culture... wouldnt expect to pay much for them scott Thompson (adel) kade Simpson, kreuer (Carlton) pendlebury ( not ready to retire yet) jobe Watson or staton Sandilands, Ballentyne, ibbotson or Johnson gary Ablett Barlow Goddard or James kelly Roughhead burgyone hodge Gibson Grundy McVeigh Rocklift Martin Mackie Taylor lonergan Murphy suckling boyd grigg reiwolt ryder boak le cras priddis hurn waite Cunnington Goldstein higgins Montanga reiwelt Mummford Johnson ????????????