Whispering_Jack

Sorry guys but I had to grab a lift home. Have one 4 me - cheers.

We moved the team around a lot in the final quarter and finished up 22.18.150 to 6.2.38. It was a fantastic team performance - a tribute to rivvo & the other blokes who couldn't make it like mickrocks, imtoohot, melbournefc and a few others who couldn't make it.

3/4 time and it's looking good 19.15.129 to 4.2.26. We have the wind in the last.

Dees 12.10.82 Saints 2.1.13

Qtr time & fees in front by a goal. 2.7 to 2.1

It would be fantastic to have more supporters and more helpers at the game today so please consider coming along. Also, if anyone lives in the vicinity of Gosch's Paddock, it would be appreciated if you could check the condition of the ground to ensure there are no gaping holes on the flanks today. It makes it very difficult to plan match tactics when there's a real chance that your half back line might be buried deep in some underground chasm as a result of an avalanche of collapsing soil (and boys, please remember, there's no insurance or liability accepted by anyone associated with the game today). Freak seems to have gotten into the spirit of things in so far as his pre match preparation is concerned by getting home at close to 5am on the morning of the game. Hopefully, someone can wake him up to ensure that he makes it to the ground on time. Fortunately, the coaching panel has assumed the discipline of the Trappist monks and has spent many hours preparing for the event in silence, solitude and sobriety (ah the sacrifices we have to make for the red and the blue cause). I won't dazzle you with any science this morning but gentlemen, in the words of Ivan from Ivanhoe we do need some discipline today. Redleg and I were both disappointed at one aspect of our game against Tanking Carlton a few weeks ago and that was in your total and utter lack of respect for your opponents. Specifically, I refer to that little bloke who played on the half forward flank. OK, he was a 14-year-old dwarf but he was on his own enough times and he did kick the goal that nearly cost us the game. Just because he's barely 4 feet tall, it doesn't mean you have to ignore him or the instructions from the coach to man up. Same goes for your opponents today. Be aware of who they are and where they are at all times. Thank you.

Just bumping this thread up for today's Queensland Demons function. Hope it's successful and I look forward to seeing a report in the near future. Definitely going up there late December/early January and still happy to organise an informal get together to have a drink and discuss the Demons. After all, what else does one do in the middle of summer in a sunny climate?

For mine too but was he mentioned in the article about the captaincy? Dees ponder leaders of the pack

An interesting observation today on SEN by St. Kilda draftee Tom Lynch who said that he thought from the start of the season during AIS training camp that Jack Watts was going to be # 1 - and that was well before Watts decided to give up on basketball to concentrate on a footy career. Back then most of us hadn't even heard of him and Naitanui and Rich were the favourites for first selection in the draft.

Asked on SEN today who was the most talented footballer he played with during his career, David Schwarz replied that it was Allen Jakovich. Unfortunately, he never got the most out of himself because of his casual attitude towards training. Rarely seen during pre season except when it came to the annual country v city cricket game and then he would do everything - bat, bowl, field and keep wickets. Kicked eight goals in his last game v Hawthorn and then his career was done in by a bad back although he spent a brief time after that at Footscray.

Sibosado is definitely eligible for both PSD and rookie drafts. Born 13/10/90.

New poster Theo has posted a report from yesterday's training on this thread - Report

Certainly is Theo. Most of us live a long way away from CF. Appreciate your reports any time.

This is the full list as per the afl.com.au site. As you can see there is room for one more senior list player and three more rookies. The Oracle is writing an article for Demonland about the changes to the list so far and it should be on the site by the weekend. MELBOURNE 1. Bail, Rohan 2. Bartram, Clint 3. Bate, Matthew 4. Bell, Daniel 5. Bennell, Jamie 6. Blease, Sam 7. Bruce, Cameron 8. Buckley, Simon 9. Cheney, Kyle 10. Davey, Aaron 11. Dunn, Lynden 12. Frawley, James 13. Garland, Colin 14. Green, Brad 15. Grimes, Jack 16. Jamar, Mark 17. Jetta, Neville 18. Johnson, Paul 19. Jones, Nathan 20. Maric, Addam 21. Martin, Stefan 22. McDonald, James (veteran – outside list) 23. McLean, Brock 24. McNamara, Tom 25. Meesen, John 26. Miller, Brad 27. Moloney, Brent 28. Morton, Cale 29. Newton, Michael 30. Petterd, Ricky 31. Rivers, Jared 32. Robertson, Russell (veteran – outside list) 33. Strauss, James 34. Sylvia, Colin 35. Warnock, Matthew 36. Watts, Jack 37. Wheatley, Paul 38. Whelan, Matthew 39. Wonaeamirri, Austin 40. Rookie List 1. Spencer, Jake 2. Valenti, Shane 3. Zomer, Trent 4. 5. 6. ADDITIONS Father-Son selection: – Exchange period – received: – Rookie elevation: Austin Wonaeamirri Scholarship elevation: – NAB AFL Draft: Rohan Bail (Mt Gravatt), Jamie Bennell (Swan Districts), Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges), Neville Jetta (Swan Districts), James Strauss (Oakleigh Chargers), Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons) International rookie selection: – Three-year non-registered player selection: – NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft: NAB AFL Rookie Draft: DELETIONS Retired: Ben Holland, David Neitz (veteran – outside list) Exchange period – traded: – Delisted: Jace Bode, Nathan Carroll (second list lodgment), Chris Johnson, Isaac Weetra, Jeff White (veteran – inside list), Adem Yze (veteran – outside list)

John Bennell is 174cm and weighs 71kg. Sounds like an ideal candidate. In answer to how many rookie picks we have available I think we're allowed six rookies if our main list has 40 players (including 2 veterans). We have Jake Spencer, Shane Valenti and Trent Zomer which means we can pick 3 rookies.

I believe an agreement was reached. Even if the terms weren't put into writing before the end of the last Council term (and I don't know if they were or not), an agreement's an agreement and if the Council baulked, they could be up for significant legal costs and penalties if they wanted to overturn the deal at this stage.

I agree with Dean Bailey's often repeated statement about the club looking for players with good character but I think people are going overboard with this theme when it comes to potential draftees. It seems that the automatic reaction of some is that if they didn't get selected there's something wrong with them, be it their character or their physical attributes etc. The fact is a finite number of players were selected and it doesn't necessarily follow that all the rest who weren't picked are bad eggs. It's up to the club to now decide on who's next best because we have first pick in the PSD. Our next selection doesn't necessarily have to be a Ritchie Cunningham goody two shoes type either. I'd gladly accept an Arthur Fonzarelli type with first pick in the PSD (for those who can't work out who or what I'm talking about, please google "Happy Days" - it was a TV show from the '70's & '80's). Further, I think it's the responsibility of the club to some extent to ensure that our players know what's required of them when they represent the club and that this should be an ongoing process over the player's entire career. If the best player available has a few rough edges, then a good club and a good coach should be able to knock him into shape without much difficulty. We picked up 5 medium/smalls in the draft. I think we need some balance with our next picks in the PSD and rookie draft. I'm all for Casey and since he would most likely start in the VFL I'd like to reprise another slogan from the '70's (in slightly different form): Point Casey at Casey!

And today it's very much in the present. Well done to The Professor who brought the story to you first on Demonland - Watts to carry famous No. 4

Just hope he was behaving on break up day!

Got the grandfather thing out of the way (Jasmine Rose came 8 days early) so now I'm back in on the coaching panel. Spoke to BL2381 yesterday and he's in along with Dookie. It looks like we've had to recruit hard to overcome a few players we've lost (cheers Rivvo) so like the Demons we're going with youth and a sh*tload of run and carry. I'm also going to try to get one of those coaches whiteboards so I can do the team placements properly and I'll also have the odd message or two for the boys and (girl if she's playing this time) later in the week.

A Herald Sun special: "Strauss Waltzes"

We do. And that essentially means we have two chances at the next 7 players available (subject to no late delistings by other clubs). Out of interest, this is the Burgatron list of players that weren't selected in yesterday's draft and Casey tops the list:- 44. Casey Sibosado 193 cm 85 kg DOB 13.10.90 NT Thunder NT 47. Steven Gaertner 199 87 02.01.90 Dandenong U18 48. Matthew DeBoer 187 85 10.03.90 Claremont WA 55. Luke Thompson * 192 86 08.02.91 Geelong U18 56. Clancee Pearce 182 90 23.10.90 S. Districts WA 58. Adam Varcoe 179 64 31.12.90 C. District SA 65. Brad Mangan * 187 87 27.04.91 Murray U18 68. Tom Hill * 199 78 07.04.91 Northern U18 71. Tom Rockliff 183 83 22.02.90 Murray U18 75. Danny Meyer ** 183 76 03.08.86 Richmond AFL 77. Matthew Moody ** 187 86 23.09.85 Brisbane AFL 79. Kade Klemke 180 77 15.07.90 Murray U18 80. Robin Nahas 174 63 10.11.87 Pt. Melbourne VFL 81. Nick Davis ** 184 83 30.03.80 Sydney AFL 83. Nathan Carroll ** 191 91 20.10.80 Melbourne AFL * too young for the PSD and rookie drafts ** recycled players

I'm sure my barrister mate Redleg is going to like Bail because when he's defending his clients in court, that's what he's always asking the judge to give them. *

The Saints used all of their picks today. Unless someone there retires or gets delisted, Carroll might be gorn.

Don't forget to watch - should be a fair bit about the MFC on the programme.