Whispering_Jack

The news I'm hearing is that the prosecution in the Darwin Supreme Court case is considering dropping some of the charges against Liam. I don't know if the idea is to shorten the case or to draw out a plea bargain but irrespective, I hope this turns out well for Liam and that he has the strength to face and overcome all of the issues that have surfaced in his life over the past twelve months. I'm not sure however, that it's in his interest for him to talk to journos at this stage when he's facing so many legal trials in which one of the recurring issues appears to be his drinking.

Please leave your personal feuds at home and concentrate on the thread, otherwise a well earned rest might be in order. Thank you.

An interesting article and, if true, then it's a good thing for the club that the football department and a number of associated personnel including welfare officers have been moved on and we have an almost completely different group of people in charge of the players.As for Scully, if I remember correctly, the timeframe coincides with his father's reported signing on with GWS as a recruiting officer. Funny how these things work out.

Damn ... had we kept our 25 point lead we could have been close to the eight by the end of the game.

Go for percentage lads.

Lunch at the cricket and back to the game at Renmark. These commentators are strange. The only Melbourne name they know, and they keep repeating it often, is ... Trengove and I'm certain Jack's not even playing.

Sorry but I can't listen to this garbage any more. I'm watching the cricket.

Sellar gets his second goal after 15 Port Adelaide players in a row touch the ball.

Do the commentators know the names of any Melbourne players?

Was wondering why he wasn't opening the bowling in Hyderabad.

For starters, CC's joke was funny.

Port Adelaide v Melbourne preview In terms of how the season will pan out, this game is unlikely to be a pointer to anything but for the individuals on both sides not on the "missing" lists it means a great deal because a good performance today could be helpful in enhancing their prospects for the remaining NAB Cup matches and ultimately, team selection. The result is the least of all considerations. If we win, the result gets downplayed because, after all, Port Adelaide didn't play their full side ... and if we lose, we're hopeless because we lost to a lowly opponent that was undermanned on the day. I'm tipping a draw.

Based on all of the hype surrounding him at the moment, that might not be a surprise. However, given that the Liston Trophy is usually won by an undersized midfielder, I think it would be unlikely for him to win the silverware, especially if his workload is modified and he only ends up playing a limited number of games for the Scorpions.

Slightly off topic but by way of demonstrating the decline in standards at Fairfax Media is the Real Footy Poll currently running in the Age: There are two options given - yes and no. To date, 53 people have voted and the yes vote is currently trailing the no vote by 26% to 74%. Thankfully, there is a disclaimer which tells us that these "polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate". Almost on a par with Wilson's opinion that Melbourne had a good legal case against tanking but should be punished heavily anyway.

We shouldn't complain too much. We had a good run last year with coverage in the first three NAB Cup games and only missed out on the last one which was a fairly meaningless filler in the week of the grand final which was the only game telecast. Tomorrow's game is more Mickey Mouse stuff and, unless someone puts their hand up, even Demonland isn't sending a correspondent to cover the game.

Thanks.

OK, it's on the AFL website but for those who have the Tune In Radio application, will you get the game by tuning in to 5AA?

NAB CUP ROUND TWO: Renmark (Sunday, March 3) Port Adelaide v Melbourne (4pm CDT) PORT ADELAIDE 3. Campbell Heath, 5. Matthew Broadbent, 8. Hamish Hartlett, 12. Jackson Trengove, 13. Cameron OShea, 14. Paul Stewart, 15. Lewis Stevenson, 16. Oliver Wines, 17. Tom Clurey, 20. Chad Wingard, 21. Matt Thomas, 22. Mason Shaw, 23. Matthew Lobbe, 24. Nathan Blee, 26. Andrew Moore, 30. Sam Colquhoun, 31. Darren Pfeiffer, 32. Jake Neade, 34. Jarrad Redden, 37. Kane Mitchell, 38. Ben Newton, 40. Aaron Young, 41. Brendon Ah Chee, 42. Tom Jonas, 43. Daniel Stewart, 45. Danny Butcher, 46. Justin Hoskin MELBOURNE 1. Jesse Hogan, 2. Nathan Jones, 4. Jack Watts, 5. Jimmy Toumpas, 6. Chris Dawes, 7. Jack Viney, 8. James Frawley, 10. Shannon Byrnes, 12. Colin Sylvia, 13. Jordie McKenzie, 14. Lynden Dunn, 15. David Rodan, 17. Sam Blease, 19. James Strauss, 20. Colin Garland, 21. Cameron Pedersen, 22. James Magner, 25. Tom McDonald, 26. Daniel Nicholson, 27. Tom Gillies, 28. Joel Macdonald, 30. James Sellar, 31. Jack Grimes, 32. Michael Evans, 34. Dean Kent, 36. Aaron Davey, 38. Jeremy Howe, 39. Neville Jetta, 40. Mark Jamar, 42. Jake Spencer, 45. Matt Jones, 46. Dean Terlich, 47. Tom Couch, 48. Jack Fitzpatrick Remarkable comebacks by Sam Blease and James Frawley.

The only thing I can say about this article is - Carlton angry salary cap dispensation allowed Sydney to snare Kurt Tippett Chris Judd.

I'm now prepared to concede to you that this amounts to tanking.Can I get a bet on this game?

Posters should be aware that anyone seeking to respond to Ms. Wilson's work are liable to be attacked for being "childish" and "sexist". It's one way in which people who are too lazy (or simply unable) to respond to genuine criticism of her work deflect the real issues involved with the shoddy agenda based journalism we get from Caro these days.

The second game of the NAB Cup campaign v Port Adelaide promises to be a hot one with temperatures in the low 30's predicted for the picturesque Murray River town of Renmark, just a two hour drive away from Mildura. The squad should be announced some time today or tomorrow.

No. She was in Singapore last week. Hopefully, if she's back this week, Garry will take her up on that offer from a fortnight ago to reveal her sources.

Interesting tweet from Paul Amy to the effect that Casey South Melb Premier District cricket skipper Jake Best has been offered a contract by the Casey Scorpions to play in the VFL.

I have maintained throughout that people who were once close to the club undermined it during the course of the tanking investigation. Given that it is now common knowledge that four such people (all former employees) gave their version of the "vault" to Clothier and Haddad that proposition would seem self-evident. The club's interests were undermined by the evidence they gave. That is a fact and not a smear. I am not suggesting they lied but it's clear that others gave different evidence.My information is that at a particular point in time (September/October) the enquiry was going nowhere and was indeed in danger of folding. I have been informed that the "vault" information was voluntarily provided to the investigation by a former employee and the consequences were that the investigators recalled all witnesses and a number of different versions of the vault story entailed. As we know, despite the different versions, both the AFL and the MFC had advice from their respective senior counsel that the "tanking" case against the club had little likelihood of success in court. The "vault" evidence was therefore crucial to the ultimate outcome (convoluted as it was). I was also told that whoever informed the investigation of that story gave that information to Wilson as well. In addition, I know several people connected with the club (past or present) were privy to what Wilson knew and what the AFL knew and that there was a difference between the two stories. This connects Wilson directly to this group of people and the informants to the investigation. One other matter suggested was that the person who "squealed" to Wilson had previously supplied her with information about a different matter which was designed to embarrass the club and which subsequently proved to be untrue. Do you really believe that Wilson came about information which led her to produce her damning opinion pieces aimed at the club, Cameron Schwab and Chris Connolly and suggesting that all would be heavily punished from friendly or benign sources? The story and its back stories ring true with me and suggest there are people with past associations with the club who have continuing grievances with individuals at the club which might undermine the club's interests in the future. Please note that contrary to what you might think, I am not pointing to a specific person or even a group of people: they could come from a number of groups with past associations with the club who might be disgruntled. However, based on what I know, there are more people involved than just the four disgruntled former employees out of thirty witnesses who gave the "evidence" upon which the AFL made its decision notwithstanding that its clear that the club did not breach the AFL's tanking laws which was what the investigation was supposed to be about.