Whispering_Jack

Dons' governance questioned This is interesting and I trust our club has these issues under control.

That's enough people. Rumours are rumours. Nothing else and this thread is now shut and will only be reopened in the event of further corroborated information.

... and taken a swipe at CS on the way out ...Of course, if she was a quick thinker, she might have deduced that the fact that we weren't into performance enhancing drugs was further proof yet that we were tanking.

I don't think you can presume that - they're both on track to return at around that time but my understanding is that the club is treating both players' recoveries (and that of Maxy) conservatively. If they need an extra week or two then so be it.

Craig was great for us and great for the club in terms of his relationship with supporters. That definitely went backwards when Barry Prendergast came in and soon after the Demonland/Demonology sponsorship died. Good luck in your new career, CAC!

If you have a complaint about a poster please PM.I don't have any relatives named "quickdraw".

Please take care when naming names - no speculation please.

Sure did but for the purposes of my post I was emphasising the headline and the fact that it's too late for "enough".

For avoidance of doubt, here's the info straight from MFC's twitter:-

And telecast live, free to air and to what we once knew as a non NRL state.

So now we're guilty because the AFL took a long time to complete an investigation?

Matthew Lloyd is crying that he's had Enough. Wait until the Bombers have been put through the wringer by every man and his dog for 6 or 7 months with leaks of evidence given by former insiders, many of them with axes to grind, opinion pieces from people with vendettas, others who simply don't understand the issues and still others who want to be mischievous. "Enough!" This happens to just be the beginning.

Hardly think so.Most of our results in recent years have been fairly predictable and even the games the media seems to focus on in the context of the tanking allegations were games we were expected to lose anyway.

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being. Perhaps the poor body language came from the frustration of not being able to do when he was younger and fully fit. Whilst he will never regain the body of the 21 year old Aaron Davey, he's probably fitter now than at any time in the last three years. That has to count for something.

In a strange move the AFL is apparently going to dispense with the policy applied in previous investigations and will widen its anti Essendon drugs enquiry to other clubs. Gold Coast Suns and Geelong now in the gun AFL vows to investigate The Weapon's former clubs What happened to the one club at a time policy they applied to alleged "tanking"?

What would you like me to say?

... and the fact that he was going to end up with an extra fifty large in the kick at Carlton never entered his head.

I can't understand why everyone is yabbering on about WADA, SHMADA, ASADA and SHMASDA - they all mean nothing. We've all seen, heard and read that Bomber coach James Hird has looked grim and ashen faced and, as the wise heads in the media tell us, that is enough to establish a person's guilt. On that basis Essendon surely must be guilty and the investigation is justified. Heads will roll!

I would issue a polite refusal and tell them they can reapply when they can establish better behavioural patterns among their players than this - Carlton footballer Brock McLean caught in police inquiry after big night out

And used them very effectively for more than ½ a decade. Problem is their use is definitively evidence of tanking (if indeed the labs can find traces of DEPS in the system). The good news is that DEPS don't leave any traces anywhere except perhaps in the imagination.

IIRC, we were still an outside chance of making the finals with about three rounds to go but since the meaning of the word "tanking" is constantly being transformed, widened, embellished, twisted and contorted, I guess you're 100% right. I remember the game against Hawthorn in Round 20 when Aaron Davey went down with a foot injury and we lost by only 21 points despite being murdered by the umpires. Yep, we tanked that so we couldn't make finals.

Reminiscent of Caro Wilson's amazing revelations on tanking that had to have certain dates amended after publication for correctness. She even had us "tanking" in 2010.

Well, on that note we have a link on Demonland to Easty's site - FOOTY RECORD HQ On the home page, it says:- I've just today re-acquainted myself with this site and it might be worthwhile contacting Easty although I note it's a while since it's been updated. I have a personal interest in the Demons World magazine because, in its early days, Redleg and I wrote most of the articles. I would really be interested in getting hold of some copies for myself if anyone has any.

To be fair, you asked a number of questions and Rumpole answered one of them. Most of your other questions have been answered on this thread but I'm sure that Redleg is capable of giving you an erudite response within his usual fee structure.Better still, if we can get hold of Finks' submission, that should tell you.

I thought he was running the show.