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Finished 4th in the 2018 B&F in a great year for the club. Clearly the FD still rate him. Explain that to me? One injury to the starting midfield of Oliver, Viney, Brayshaw, Harmes and he's straight in there. He has challenges ahead to adapt to a new role on the wing and probably half-forward but he's too good not to be in the 22. He's be in any club's best 22. The FD will find a way to use his talents and he'll need to rise to the challenge of adapting to his new role. If he can adapt to a new role there's no reason he can't play 2-3 more years - he has been incredibly durable.

Agree. It will be fascinating to see if Richmond use Lynch in the ruck. It was comical at times with Grigg supporting Nankervis. If Nankervis went down in a big match they would be totally screwed. Soldo and Chol are ordinary depth too if he's out for weeks.

HTF do Port get that as an away game? Something to do with needing a game every week at AO so they need the home game?

That's the whole point, it's premature to make judgements about individual trades now. The thing I do make judgements about is trading philosophy. We trade for outcomes and have a reputation for getting the deal done. Dodoro and Bell do their teams no favours in the long run IMO. Play hard ball on Lever. Maybe May and GC don't have faith in us to get the deal done and lose patience and he ends up elsewhere.

Thread should be on Trade board btw

Seriously? We win a flag in the next 5 years with Lever and May making significant contributions and they look like smart trades. Win more than that and they look like genius. Don't win any and you have a point. It's not about winning trade week - expect better of you.

He's like Joel Smith, the FD are looking at what he can do. not what he can't do, They might be competing for a similar role in the fwd 50.

Link to source where you read this please.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-27/academy-rules-tweaked-to-give-overlooked-talent-another-chance

Not another pseudonym! And here I thought we had another quality poster.

Don't unlock the asylum. ?

Nathan Jones has some challenges in front of him in his final career phase adapting to a new role outside the primary centre square set but there's every reason to believe he will meet them He's too good not to be best 22. As you say, his media work is first class now and that's a real asset. It takes time and effort and I think it's better all around for the team if he continues to take this load.

Has your glass got a hole in it? Freo must be wondering what's wrong with Hogan too because according to you we let him go too cheaply.

Told you under "cone of silence" or fine to have it on the public record? We all appreciate inside information but one needs to be careful that one's sources do not dry up from being aired too much.

why do I give @Queanbeyan Demon post more credit than your's?

surprised he didn't go to Sydney

I'll definitely define definitive for you.

Great guy - your loss.

His rating system has a lot of grades A- and B+, C- and D+. From A to F that gives 16 different rating levels and that's leaving out A+ and F-. Put them on the line Terry and be more definitive.

It's very rare for successful KPFs to be drafted outside the first round and usually earlier the better.

Where's @Petraccattack's genius when you need it?

Thanks for that WJ, using your "Ins" from that post, I said I'd add the outgoing future picks to balance the ledger and provide the full context and AFAIK here's the current state of play prior to the conclusion of pick trading and live trading on draft night (the outs don't have the deal status). Source: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-17/trade-period-verdict-how-did-your-club-fare 2019 Draft Selections Adelaide - In: 2019 round five draft selection from Carlton via Mitch McGovern trade Out: 2019 third-round pick, 2019 fourth-round pick Brisbane Lions - In: 2019 round one draft selection from Collingwood via Dayne Beams trade, 2019 round two draft selection from Gold Coast via pick swap, 2019 round three draft selection (tied to Fremantle via pick swap) from Port Adelaide via Sam Mayes trade Out: 2019 first-round pick Carlton - In: 2019 round three draft selection from Adelaide via Mitch McGovern trade Out: 2019 second-round pick, 2019 fourth-round pick, 2019 fifth-round pick Collingwood In: nil Out: 2019 first-round pick Essendon - In: 2019 round two draft selection from Greater Western Sydney via Dylan Shiel trade, 2019 round four draft selection from Essendon via Travis Colyer trade Out: 2019 first-round pick Fremantle In: nil Out: 2019 third-round pick, 2019 fourth-round pick Geelong In: nil Out: nil Gold Coast - In:: 2019 round one draft selection from Brisbane via pick swap, 2019 round three draft selection from Richmond via Miles-Ellis trade Out: 2019 second-round pick, 2019 third-round pick, 2019 third-round pick, 2019 fourth-round pick, 2019 fourth-round pick Greater Western Sydney - In: 2019 round one draft selection from Essendon via Dylan Shiel trade, 2019 round two draft selection from Carlton via Will Setterfield trade, 2019 round four draft selection (tied to Gold Coast via Jack Scrimshaw trade) via Tom Scully trade Out: 2019 second-round pick Hawthorn - In: 2019 round three draft selection from Port Adelaide via Chad Wingard-Ryan Burton trade, 2019 round four draft selection from Western Bulldogs via Taylor Duryea trade Out: 2019 third-round pick, 2019 fourth-round pick, 2019 fourth-round pick Melbourne In: nil Out: nil North Melbourne In: nil Out: 2019 fourth-round pick Port Adelaide - In: 2019 round three draft selection from Hawthorn via Chad Wingard-Ryan Burton trade, 2019 round four draft selection from North Melbourne via Polec-Pittard trade, 2019 round four draft selection from Gold Coast (tied to Adelaide) via Jack Hombsch trade Out: 2019 third-round pick Richmond - In: 2019 round three draft selection from Gold Coast via Miles-Ellis trade Out: 2019 third-round pick Sydney - In: 2019 round two draft selection from St Kilda via Dan Hannebery trade, 2019 round four draft selection from Carlton via Nic Newman trade Out: nil St Kilda - 2019 round four draft selection from West Coast via Tom Hickey trade Out: 2019 second-round pick, 2019 fourth-round pick West Coast - In: 2019 round four draft selection from St Kilda via Tom Hickey trade Out: 2019 fourth-round pick Western Bulldogs - In: 2019 round three draft selection (tied to Hawthorn via Jack Scrimshaw trade) via Marcus Adams trade Out: 2019 fourth-round pick

I can't wait for full training to start and see which groups specific players are training with. It gives a good indication although I recognise that things can change quickly in season e,g, Salem mid to back; and Fritsch fwd to mid to back last year and Melksham back to fwd in 2017. Anyway hers's a stab at it starting with whom I consider to be the locks (you're free to disagree): Backs: May, Lever, Jetta, Hibberd, Salem, OMac, Lewis, Frost, Petty, Wagner Mids: Gawn, Preuss, Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Harmes, Jones, Stretch, JKH, Maynard, Baker Forwards: TMac, Weed, Melksham, Petracca, ANB, Spargo, Hannan, T.Smith, Garlett Of particular interest: KK: back or mid - I'm tipping wing role as a mid. VDB: probably mid? Hunt: has been a back but I think there could be a role change - possibly forward Fritsch: the most versatile - forward, mid or back? He played back at the end of this year for coverage and I have FD intel that this is the preferred role for him J.Smith: was a back but I've posted elsewhere that I like the idea of him forward, has the height to spoil intercept markers and the pace and tackling to lock the ball in. The FD tried him there at the end of this year twice. Keilty: plays back at Casey but they use him as a swingman and goes fwd to create an effective target, With our plethora of tall backs and shortage of tall fwd depth I'd like to see Dec training with the forwards.

I had a bit of a soft spot for Freo, fellow travellers in adversity and all that. I don't wish Jesse any ill will personally but Freo have lost me. I don’t like North and Freo are up there with them now, unlikeable but unremarkable.

Dion Johnstone was delisted.